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Israel up to their shenanigans again (pg. 31)
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| Lews |
| quote: | Originally posted by cluBBer
YES
He speaks about known facts, it's not new to me.
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:stongue: :stongue:
ahahahahaha
Not even Glenn Beck believes the bull he spouts out. Unfortunately a lot of his viewers do.
I hate blanket statements, but anyone who believes what Glenn Beck says is a ing idiot. |
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| Abercrombie |
He may not be the the most reputable speaker, but those are tons of valid points. |
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| jester |
Egypt to strip men married to Israelis of citizenship
:crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :haha: :haha: :haha:
It just be like Canada or any country telling its citizens if you side with Hamas or something you are no longer a Canadian or citizen of whatever country you are from... Please find a new country to live in. |
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| Fledz |
| Well that's a bit extreme :nervous: |
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| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by jester
Egypt to strip men married to Israelis of citizenship
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Link? Though I think this is a blessing, in the end. If my country ever stripped me of my citizenship because of something I lawfully did, I'd hand them all the necessary documents right away. |
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| zoogla |
| quote: | Originally posted by Fledz
The only way to defeat a terrorist organisation is to convince the populace that they should be on your side rather than theirs |
exactly. I can't believe how narrow-minded Israeli foreign policy is not to realize that. It's all political; the extremist Jewish lobby pretty much controls everything (conspiracy, but that's who murdered Rabin, for the exact reason that we are proposing). It's really sad :(
ps. Glenn Beck is a tard. |
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| EddieZilker |
| quote: | Originally posted by fayraree
exactly. I can't believe how narrow-minded Israeli foreign policy is not to realize that. It's all political; the extremist Jewish lobby pretty much controls everything (conspiracy, but that's who murdered Rabin, for the exact reason that we are proposing). It's really sad :(
ps. Glenn Beck is a tard. |
This - all of this +1 |
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| w_ashley |
Just read an article from a Canadian survivor of the original flotilla and he stated that there were 16 people murdered not 9.
This was also covered by CTV a major media TV network in Canada - he has since been released but has stated more people than 9 were killed by Israeli forces.
http://www.ctvbc.ctv.ca/servlet/an/...ishColumbiaHome
He states 16 in this article. |
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| jester |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lira
Link? Though I think this is a blessing, in the end. If my country ever stripped me of my citizenship because of something I lawfully did, I'd hand them all the necessary documents right away. |
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| Viber |
| quote: | Originally posted by Fledz
1. So they don't? You're either stupid or ignorant if you don't realise what a strong Jewish lobby there is in Western countries. They don't control the world, that would be ridiculous but they may as well control it.
2. You're putting words in my mouth and attempting to elevate yourself to an educated level by extrapolating nonsense from what was essentially a rant? Last time I checked, I didn't write a novel but a small paragraph laden with emotion.
Nobody said anything about doing policing work for Israel, that just takes us back to square one. If anything it's the Israelites who need to be policed more so than the Palestinians. The international force would be there purely to bring back a sense of balance and deter opposing forces, not to police either or both sides. |
1.So the Jewish lobby is dictating the policy for the majority (Christian + Islamic), makes perfect sense.
2.I didn't put anything in your mouth nor am i trying to change your mind - it is all prejudged anyway.
I will apologize for taking your "rant" seriously, you seem to be offended by it.
You obviously did not suggest a policing force for the Hamas but it will turn into one...do you know any dictatorship that willingly removed itself peacefully? let alone because some ham and milk eaters requested them to do so? Arab state of mind 101: "Who the are you to tell me or MY PEOPLE what to do? you have on respect for the arab nation!"
| quote: | | The only way to defeat a terrorist organisation is to convince the populace that they should be on your side rather than theirs and you certainly can't do that by allowing an opposing force to wilfully and illegally might I add, hold them prisoner on their own land. |
There's a truth in that ,but again ,how do you do that when the Hamas is so deeply embedded in Gaza? there's no other side in Gaza - the Hamas controls everything.
You can come to Israel and visit Ramallah and then visit Gaza - Both are Palestinian cities, one is a threat to Israel (Hamas) and the other one plays ball with Israel and is earning from it (Fatah).
You will then understand that Gaza is so problematic Mainly because of the Hamas and its ideology,nothing else.
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The reason nothing is done is because we have people like you who just criticise but never actually provide a solution. You're a fence sitter that thinks by pulling apart others arguments, somehow the world will be a better place. It won't, because people like you are incapable of making the tough decisions that will benefit people in the long run. |
Oh, and people like you who are cheerleading negative actions and offer dangerous interventions ARE the solution?? learn some humility will ya?
I don't rally believe in fast "Solutions", i believe in process and rebuilding (On the crumbles of current Hamas ideology), Education is a big chunk of it imo...I think that the rising of cities like Ramallah can be a great part of it - once the people in Gaza will want the same things that the people in Ramallah have they might want to start a positive revolution.
So my solution just MIGHT be a declaration of Ramallah and its satellite villages (about 350,000 ppl) as the country of Palestine (via peace agreement)and the beauty of it? -the annexation of Gaza to this country is conditional (a motivation for the people in Gaza to start such revolution). |
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| cluBBer |
| quote: | Originally posted by hardcore trancer
There are many reasons behind that and one of them is the fact that the Egyption government to many Arabs is nothing but a puppet regime and does what they are told by the U.S. . The Egyption people dont necessary have the same views as their . The egyption has always been under a lot of pressure from it's own people. |
Also Iran & Turkish ppl don't support their government.You saw it couple month ago in Iran & you will see it soon in Turkye.
Gaza acupated by hamas & other terorists groups. Egypt president doesn't want chaos in his country.So he doesn't want deal with all these terrorists.He is one of a few islamic countries that want peace.
Do you know how many palestinians killed by egyptian army on the border & nobody talks about it. 2 weeks ago they bombed one of many palestinian tunnel by toxic gaz & the world just shut ups.
Pictures from turkish popular newspaper "Hürriyet"of IDF soldiers after attack by "PEACE MAKERS" |
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