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A Plea for Religion (pg. 16)
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| Dj Nacht |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lira
I just had to comment about this bit.
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In the book the author spends an entire chapter on the language part of the brain. I even think he talks about an experiment done on feral children, showing that even when isolated they still learn to communicate. There might even be a part on music! Its really a good read because it builds a strong foundation in the first half of the book before it suggests the main theory.
My sister loaned it to me last year after she did a report on it for university. This thread gives me the urge to re read it. |
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| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dj Nacht
In the book the author spends an entire chapter on the language part of the brain. I even think he talks about an experiment done on feral children, showing that even when isolated they still learn to communicate. There might even be a part on music! Its really a good read because it builds a strong foundation in the first half of the book before it suggests the main theory.
My sister loaned it to me last year after she did a report on it for university. This thread gives me the urge to re read it. |
Really? Damn it, gotta read this book now. It's weird that I've never heard anyone, not even Chomskyans, say that was possible. But, let me read that first :) |
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| VAR |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dj Nacht
In the book the author spends an entire chapter on the language part of the brain. I even think he talks about an experiment done on feral children, showing that even when isolated they still learn to communicate. There might even be a part on music! Its really a good read because it builds a strong foundation in the first half of the book before it suggests the main theory.
My sister loaned it to me last year after she did a report on it for university. This thread gives me the urge to re read it. |
spoken communication is a very interesting aspect of all humans,
but i for one, am truly curious about our love for music.
yes, i realize that the hypothalamus is proximal to the auditory nerve,
and therefore music and emotion are highly connected,
but where in fact did the universal love and ability to create music come from.
for that i am curious. |
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| srussell0018 |
| quote: | Originally posted by VAR
yes, i realize that the hypothalamus is proximal to the auditory nerve,
and therefore music and emotion are highly connected,
but where in fact did the universal love and ability to create music come from.
for that i am curious. |
Probably from primitive peoples just discovering different sounds. Dropping a stick on a rock which makes a percussive sound that is pleasing to them. Giving them the desire to recreate these sounds and perhaps make different ones. It's easier to comprehend if you start at the very beginning of humanity and try to imagine how primitive they really were. It wasn't about making music, it was about making sounds that made them feel some sort of pleasure. |
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| VAR |
| quote: | Originally posted by srussell0018
Probably from primitive peoples just discovering different sounds. Dropping a stick on a rock which makes a percussive sound that is pleasing to them. Giving them the desire to recreate these sounds and perhaps make different ones. It's easier to comprehend if you start at the very beginning of humanity and try to imagine how primitive they really were. It wasn't about making music, it was about making sounds that made them feel some sort of pleasure. |
i beg to differ,
it's much, much deeper than that. |
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| Dj Nacht |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lira
Really? Damn it, gotta read this book now. It's weird that I've never heard anyone, not even Chomskyans, say that was possible. But, let me read that first :) |
I went to my book and could not find any study. It was actually just the author quoting a theory from another book. Ill add it here to save you the trouble. There is a nice part on music as well but ill let people read the book for that.
"The sociobiologist Robin Fox expressed this same
notion in his work The Cultural Animal. While hypothesizing on the
nature and development of a society of children reared in total isolation,
Fox asserted:
I do not doubt that they [the children] could speak
and that, theoretically, given time, they or their offspring
would invent and develop a language despite
their never having been taught one. Furthermore,
94 The “God” Part of the Brain
this language, although totally different than any
known to us, would be analyzable to linguists on the
same basis as other languages and translatable into
all known languages. But I would push this further.
If our new Adam and Eve could survive and breed—
still in total isolation of any cultural influences—then
eventually they would produce a society which
would have laws about property, rules about incest
and marriage, customs of taboo, a system of social
status, courtship practices including the adornment
of females, dancing, schizophrenia, homosexuality,
initiation ceremonies for young men, myths and legends,
and beliefs about the supernatural and practices
relating to it." |
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| zyklon-jay |
| you can't be smart and quote me in your sog, son. |
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| wienerschnitzel |
| lol 'sog' |
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| wienerschnitzel |
| quote: | Originally posted by VAR
you failed to capitalize Wiener, but i will ignore that.
Wiener is whatever She wants to be. |
good grief... |
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| Dj Nacht |
| quote: | Originally posted by zyklon-jay
you can't be smart and quote me in your sog, son. |
Give me something fresh! Schnell! |
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| justin |
everybody ought to just write their sig in their own hand
btw nice trancendental quote tho |
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