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A Plea for Religion (pg. 18)
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| srussell0018 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lira
Weird, we don't have the "of his kingdom there is no end" bit in Portuguese... |
I've actually heard both "of his kingdom there is no end," as well as "and his kingdom will have no end." |
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| Lira |
| That line is missing altogether in my language - I reckon we just take it for granted or something :p |
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| srussell0018 |
| Hmm I just looked it up on wikipedia. It lists it in a few different languages but English is the only one I speak :( |
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| Redd |
| If Kylle is an atheist I'm converted to Islam, right now. |
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| VAR |
| quote: | Originally posted by Redd
If Kylle is an atheist I'm converted to Islam, right now. |
a-salaam Malika |
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| Kylle |
" Religious concepts are transmitted in three ways and thereby claim our belief. "Firstly because our primal ancestors already believed them; secondly, because we possess proofs which have been handed down to us from antiquity, and thirdly because it is forbidden to raise the question of their authenticity at all." Psychologically speaking, these beliefs present the phenomena of wish fulfillment. Wishes that are the "fulfillments of the oldest, strongest, and most urgent wishes of mankind."
Religion is an outshoot of the Oedipus complex, and represents man's helplessness in the world, having to face the ultimate fate of death, the struggle of civilization, and the forces of nature.
"The gods retain the threefold task: they must exorcize the terrors of nature, they must reconcile men to the cruelty of Fate, particularly as it is shown in death, and they must compensate them for the sufferings and privations which a civilized life in common has imposed on them."
yeah its Sigmund Freud :) |
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| rdevito |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dj Nacht
If it's true that this principle applies to all of our cross-cultural behaviors, should we not also apply it to spirituality? Every known culture from the dawn of our species has maintained a belief in some form of a "spiritual" reality. Wouldn't this suggest that human spirituality must represent an inherent characteristic of our species, that is, a genetically inherited trait? Furthermore, being that spirituality, just like language, represents a cognitive function, wouldn't this suggest that our "spiritual" instincts, just like our linguistic ones, must be generated from some very specific physical part within the brain? I informally refer to this site as the "God" part of the brain, a cluster of neurons from which spiritual cognitions, sensations, and behaviors are generated.
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So, spirituality applies only for rational animals aka human beings?
As you can see such things as spirituality and unknown forces are creations of human beings. All living creatures do not need it to survive.
Anyway, i have to admit i enjoyed your post. Thanks for that :) |
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| srussell0018 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Redd
If Kylle is an atheist I'm converted to Islam, right now. |
Lol, there's people like that in every faith, or lack thereof. Just look at Nou. Not exactly the shining beacon of atheism. |
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| Znack |
If we didn't have religion, we would probably be 1000 years ahead in development with fewer wars, less discrimination and morality generally based on what makes most sense, which does not include homo-hatred and oppression of women.
It is an undeniable fact that religion has opposed science ever since the two became independent. |
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| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by Znack
It is an undeniable fact that religion has opposed science ever since the two became independent. |
Yes, it is a deniable fact: science came from philosophy, not from religion. And, before you say philosophy came from religion, it came from a bunch of Greeks who doubted religion was a good source of knowledge and decided to do their own thing. |
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| PivotTechno |
Yeah, but where did those doubts come from?
Ad infinitum.
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| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by PivotTechno
Yeah, but where did those doubts come from? |
From the contact between different cultures - which may involve, but is not necessarily restricted to, religion ;) |
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