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A Plea for Religion (pg. 20)
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Fledz
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Originally posted by srussell0018
Try reading more than the first paragraph before commenting. That's like faulting the modern Catholic church for the Crusades, or faulting modern Germany for the Holocaust. The Jesuits are all about education now. They've founded some of the top Universities in the US.


I did. The first time. My opinion is exactly the same.

So what if they funded schools? You think there isn't more to it than just education? Everyone has motives and their motive is the propagation of their ideals.
Vector A
^ Yup. The famous quote: "Give me a child until he is seven and I will give you the man." Supposedly from Ignatius of Loyola himself.

:p
srussell0018
quote:
Originally posted by Fledz
I did. The first time. My opinion is exactly the same.

So what if they funded schools? You think there isn't more to it than just education? Everyone has motives and their motive is the propagation of their ideals.


Okay, so your opinion is still wrong. Their teachings have nothing to do with militarism whatsoever.
Lira
quote:
Originally posted by Fledz
So what if they funded schools? You think there isn't more to it than just education? Everyone has motives and their motive is the propagation of their ideals.

You mean, like, a possible world domination by a global church? Hmm... only if "Catholic" turned out to mean something like "universal", but what are the odds? :p
Fledz
I don't understand what you guys are trying to prove :conf:
Lira
Actually, I was defending your claim that they obviously have ulterior motives :p
srussell0018
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Originally posted by Lira
Actually, I was defending your claim that they obviously have ulterior motives :p


Which has absolutely nothing to do with anything related to military ideals.
Lira
Precisely :D
Fledz
I'm a civilian, I don't think military ideals and thought processes are relevant to a general existence. That's why we separate the military from civilian life.

Anyway, it. I don't care. I'm on holidays, I'm not being a philosophical wanker any more this year. Time to go out and get drunk, instead of being a cooped up nerd discussing the merits of religion and other useless .
Comrade Stalin
Science: Is solely responsible for the technological progress we have made so far since our species arose.

Religion: Is solely responsible for retarding technological progress because the science behind it went against the prevailing theology.

Result: Science has always won in the end and religion always the one having to "adjust" the dogma to fit the science.

So why be religious in the first place? It all comes down to fear of one's own death and what happens to consciousness.

pkcRAISTLIN
hey nathan!
Comrade Stalin
Hey buddy! You should visit the states ;) I'd love to go back to my creationist days and play devil's advocate with ya :p
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