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Israel/Hamas Conflict (pg. 10)
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| EddieZilker |
| quote: | Originally posted by Ted Promo
If he didn't this forum would lose 40% of the posts it still receives. |
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| Viber |
| quote: | Originally posted by EddieZilker
It's just you have a very limited understanding of the dynamics involved. Part of the reason for the success in advancing elements of Sharia Law (which I also suspect is very misunderstood and mythologized by outsiders who criticize it) and European Muslim radicalization, in general, is due to the societal isolation they experience. |
I use to have a similar opinion on Radical Islam in Europe but after seeingTHIS documentary and several others i found myself thinking differently today, i mean ignore all the outsiders and hysterical editing and hear these people speak their mind, its kind of bothering imo.
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Len Rosen, a prominent Israeli investment banker, told Fortune magazine, "It's security that matters more than peace." During Oslo, "people were looking for peace to provide growth. Now they're looking for security so violence doesn't curtail growth." He could have gone much further: The business of providing "security"-in Israel and around the world-is directly responsible for much of Israel's meteoric economic growth in recent years. It is not an exaggeration to say that the War on Terror industry saved Israel's faltering economy, much as the disaster capitalism complex helped rescue the global stock markets. |
Its interesting, in the 90's people gave Rabin a lot of credit for Israel's economic growth as peace brings in more investors and tourism, i guess for every war or peace signing you have an economist smirking in the back.
Its also funny because every now and then i look at all the people who work for the IDF and other security companies\organizations and i think: ", all these people would be unemployed if this was a normal country".:stongue:
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While it was far from ideal (some compare Palestine to a concentration camp with 40% of their population suffering from food insecurity), it was a step in the right direction that seems lost in the current escalation of violence. |
Are you sure you want to believe these statistics? 40% suffering from food insecurity? i don't have an updated stat sheet but 10 years ago the Palestinians were ranked 8 and 3 on global obesity rankings (http://i.imgur.com/aho3K.jpg} and back then IDF troops were in GAZA enforcing curfews.
Keep in Mind Gaza has a pretty wide boarder with Egypt, they use tunnels to move food,building supplies,weapons and even cars.
AFAIK, since 2010 there have been no limitation by Israel on the amount of food getting into Gaza and at least 220 trucks of merchandise are coming into Gaza everyday. |
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| EddieZilker |
| quote: | Originally posted by Viber
I use to have a similar opinion on Radical Islam in Europe but after seeingTHIS ... |
Honestly, if you really have taken this to heart, I've got nothing more to say.
| quote: | Originally posted by Lews
Eddie, my friend, you're wasting your time. |
I see your point.
1000% |
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| EddieZilker |
| quote: | Originally posted by Viber
lol /thread |
Really? :gsmile:
Is that what you think? How so? |
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| Halcyon+On+On |
| quote: | Originally posted by Viber
Are you sure you want to believe these statistics? 40% suffering from food insecurity? i don't have an updated stat sheet but 10 years ago the Palestinians were ranked 8 and 3 on global obesity rankings (http://i.imgur.com/aho3K.jpg} |
Holy , lol.
I have no idea why this is funny to me. :stongue: |
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| Viber |
| quote: | Originally posted by EddieZilker
Really? :gsmile:
Is that what you think? How so? |
Look, i never expect for someone to say "you win" in these kind of arguments.
You had enough and you think i'm a moron for holding such "extreme views", big deal.
Already said i think this documentary is 70% idiotic and only found the interviews themselves interesting, i imagined you seeing 2 minutes of it and thinking "this cat must be crazy!" and it made me laugh.
You did demonstrate outstanding patience until now, most people would have lost it 2 pages ago. |
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| enydo |
| I really hope the JEWS pull out a win on this one. How do you all feel?? |
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| Guest |
| I just want people to stop killing civilians and children. Both sides. |
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| Joz |
Choose your faction!
Ultra-Nationalist Zionists: Believe they have ancestral claim to a piece of land and warrant ownership of it through divine revelation and intend to hold onto it come literally hell or high water.
God: Yaweh
Buffers:
-Nuclear armaments.
-Complete and total air power.
-Long range artillery and tanks; munitions include air dispersed bomblets and white phosphorous.
-Missile defense systems ala Iron Dome and Arrow; both partially funded by the U.S.
Bonus: Protection by the United States regardless of war crimes committed or truces broken. 100% immunity from sanctions and international repercussions.
Jihad Fundamentalists: Believe they have ancestral claim to a piece of land and warrant ownership of it through divine revelation and intend to hold onto it come literally hell or high water.
God: Allah
Buffers:
-Low grade Qassam rockets, slightly-better-but-still-ty longer range Grad rockets from Iran, and mortars.
-Supply tunnels to Egypt to ferry in arms.
-Pick-up trucks.
-Light, deployable drones.
Bonus: Slap on the wrist for war crimes/broken truces. Funding received also by the United States, as well as Egypt and other Arab countries. Also immunity to international repercussion. |
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| EddieZilker |
| quote: | Originally posted by Viber
...you think i'm a moron for holding such "extreme views", big deal. |
I think you're positively delusional. |
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| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lews
Eddie, my friend, you're wasting your time. |
Why? Only because he ignores what we show to be incorrect/wrong/pointless? :p |
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