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Israel/Hamas Conflict (pg. 7)
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Lira
quote:
Originally posted by Viber
*Atheist nutjobs aside.

When has an atheist nutjob killed people in a terrorist attack? :conf:
Viber
I don't know, maybe i'm not paying enough attention to all the spree killers from the US, but i'm not aware of them doing it for Jesus or Christian beliefs.

They are usually just sociopaths\psychopaths for all i know.
Lews
Did you even read my post?

White. Christians. Majority. Terrorists. America.


Not atheists. Paraphrasing the words of the great poet, Inman, atheists mostly just want to argue about microbrews.
Lews
quote:
Originally posted by Viber
I don't know, maybe i'm not paying enough attention to all the spree killers from the US, but i'm not aware of them doing it for Jesus or Christian beliefs.

They are usually just sociopaths\psychopaths for all i know.


When white people kill other white people it's due to mental illness. When non-white people kill white people it's due to their religion.

Makes perfect sense.
Viber
Yea, i get your point but would you classify them as religious terrorists? i mean they are 'terrorists' in the classic sense of the word but they fall into the general category of serial killers\ psychopaths imo.
Just to give you an example, i'm sure i'm registered as a Jew somewhere in the statistic department but if i kill 20 people you cant really call me a "Jewish terrorist" i would just be some guy killing people who happened to be registered as a Jew.

Anyway, i failed to properly phrase myself in that previous sentence, i didn't mean to say that "every terrorist is a Muslim" of course there a ton of moderate Muslim people and only they can be the solution.
Keep in mind I'm just talking about the Middle-East here and the wrong perception that tough life circumstances led Muslim people to terrorism.
Viber
quote:
Originally posted by Lews
When white people kill other white people it's due to mental illness. When non-white people kill white people it's due to their religion (sometimes not even that).

Makes perfect sense.


An Israeli is not necessarily white, the only thing that differentiates an Israeli from a muslim-arab is religion.

You can call practical-radical-Islamists mentally ill, i got no problem with that.

Just don't say they do what they do because life was a struggle in the hood.
EddieZilker
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Originally posted by Viber
Just don't say they do what they do because life was a struggle in the hood.


I don't think anyone's saying that. My position is that, were it not for harsh, economic adversity, there wouldn't be incentive to seek solace in religious extremism. It's not to say that some people wouldn't take it too far, anyway (i.e. racist groups, in the United States, who "claim" victimization as a justification for barbaric behavior), but such motivations experienced by the average person are much less pivotal in the absence of economic (social, et al) hardship.
LoveHate
just let the Jews have their small piece of land. :nervous:

the middle east is big enough for two religions. :toocool:
Lagrangian
quote:
Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
Unstoppable Force vs. Immovable Object, Round 8,746.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/moriel-rothman/israel-is-not-a-jewish-state_b_1603422.html
Lira
quote:
Originally posted by Viber
I don't know, maybe i'm not paying enough attention to all the spree killers from the US, but i'm not aware of them doing it for Jesus or Christian beliefs.

They are usually just sociopaths\psychopaths for all i know.

Religious sociopaths/psychopaths, for the most part. Remember that killing spree in a Sikh temple? Christian white supremacist.
Timothy McVeigh (just to mention the biggest terrorist attack perpetrated by an American)? Christian (albeit a really unorthodox one).

Good luck finding someone who isn't a Christian carrying out these attacks.

Lira
quote:
Originally posted by LoveHate
just let the Jews have their small piece of land. :nervous:

They already have :p
Viber
quote:
Originally posted by EddieZilker
I don't think anyone's saying that. My position is that, were it not for harsh, economic adversity, there wouldn't be incentive to seek solace in religious extremism. It's not to say that some people wouldn't take it too far, anyway (i.e. racist groups, in the United States, who "claim" victimization as a justification for barbaric behavior), but such motivations experienced by the average person are much less pivotal in the absence of economic (social, et al) hardship.


Hey Eddie,
I respect your position, but religious extremism can fill a void in you no matter who you are, if you are brainwashed since age 3 its not "religious extremism" at all it's just the way you're supposed to live your life.

And besides, is Gaza really the worst place in the world? i bet you can count at least 20 countries in the world with lower quality of life.

The Palestinian people are living a vicious circle of Hatred->following dumb ideologies--> executing them and then being punished for it.
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