Originally posted by EddieZilker
I think you're positively delusional.
I would rather think people who accuse people like Geert Wilders of being racists, are delusional
hardcore trancer
Palestinian death toll in Gaza reaches 100: Health Ministry. 850 people have been wounded in Gaza since the hostilities began on Wednesday. They included 260 children and 140 women.
Chimney
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Originally posted by Kylle
You're racist. That's the only explanation
Can't really tell if this was a sarcastic connotation towards European politics or for real.I have nothing against law-abiding, normal people who practice religion in their own space, regardless of skin-colour or said religion.
Serial Killer
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Originally posted by hardcore trancer
Palestinian death toll in Gaza reaches 100: Health Ministry. 850 people have been wounded in Gaza since the hostilities began on Wednesday. They included 260 children and 140 women.
i think if hummus or hamas however you pronounce it, stops using the women and children as human shields, that number will go down. we have the right to protect ourselves by any means necessary
SherlockCrash
Don't listen to those trying to spread even more hate. The world certainly don't need it. I know most people are just like me, tired of all violence and killing in the name of this god or that god or this country or freedom.
Remember that and don't listen to those who wants to make it about race or religion. At the moment they are the loudest, but that doesn't mean they are majority. So don't be afraid to speak out. If you get ridiculed by people who are trying to imply that kindness is a sign of weakness, or that peace and love are for hippies. Please take a step back and think about what they are actually saying and how stupid it really is. Then be glad that you are not like them.
I rather be alone and ridiculed for ever, then standing on the same side as people who think that the Palestinian children deserves what's coming for them or that it's shameful and unmanly to feel love against people instead of hate.
Some will probably try to make a joke out of me, but I know most of you feels the same way. Hate is for the weak who are to afraid to take the risk of being hurt.
Rest in peace ALL victims off this craziness.
MSZ
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Originally posted by Serial Killer
i think if hummus or hamas however you pronounce it, stops using the women and children as human shields, that number will go down. we have the right to protect ourselves by any means necessary
Halcyon+On+On
lol, THOSE MONSTERS! :mad:
hardcore trancer
Israel wants peace? Just look at these folks in the video:
hardcore trancer
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Originally posted by Serial Killer
i think if hummus or hamas however you pronounce it, stops using the women and children as human shields, that number will go down. we have the right to protect ourselves by any means necessary
You have the right to defend yourself but you don't have the right to commit a genocide in Gaza.
aNYthing
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Originally posted by SherlockCrash
Thank you. You kind of reminds me of George W Bush.
JOKE
o <---- YOUR HEAD
srussell0018
I wonder if the Jews would be so bold if they didn't know the US had their backs.
aNYthing
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The first day of Operation Pillar of Defense was quite successful. The Hamas military chief was assassinated and Hamas' long-range rocket capability was impaired, sending the radical Palestinian group into shock. The second day went pretty well too: Iron Dome proved its worth, Israeli civilians proved their steadfastness and Israel showed that it still enjoys a fair amount of international legitimacy and domestic cohesion.
Israeli unity, American support, European understanding, Turkish silence and Egyptian cooperation: All put Israel in quite a good strategic position on Friday. The first 48 hours of the operation was conducted better than the Second Lebanon War and Operation Cast Lead. The lessons of the Winograd and Goldstone reports were learned and internalized. Israel restored its deterrent capability without causing mass Palestinian casualties or destabilizing the region.
If the operation had ended four days ago, the message that would have been received in Gaza, Beirut, Damascus and Tehran would have been clear and sharp: Israel has excellent intelligence, decisive aerial capabilities, resolute leaders, brave citizens and surprising international support. It's not worth messing with Israel. You'd be better off letting it live its life without provoking the country or awakening it again from its slumber.
But just as in 2006 and again in 2008, Israel did not stop in time. Israel did not quit while it was ahead. And so, over the past three days, the impressive achievements of Operation Pillar of Defense have faded away while the operation's negative consequences have become more clear-cut.
Israel's ability to strike at Hamas militants from the air was significantly reduced, while the harm it caused to innocent civilians significantly increased.
After recovering from its initial shock, Hamas has come to realize that it is not critically injured and that it has time on its side. Sooner or later there will be an unintentional massacre in Gaza. Sooner or later the diplomatic support Israel has received, the international-relations version of the Iron Dome missile defense system, will wane. Sooner or later Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Defense Minister Ehud Barak will be up to their ears in quicksand.
Israel must now decide which of two bad options is better: a tough cease-fire or a bad ground war. There will be no clear victory in the Gaza Strip. It is better to reach an imperfect agreement concerning the southern border than to get embroiled in a bloody ground offensive whose outcome no one can predict.
There are some demands to which Israel must not accede. For instance, the calm on the Israeli side of the Gaza border must be total; Hamas must not be allowed to rebuild its rocket supply, and the Hamas government in Gaza must rein in radical Islamic groups and pledge that the fence will not become a staging ground for provocations. But Israel must offer something in exchange, like reopening the Rafah border terminal between Gaza and Egypt, easing the naval blockade of the Gaza Strip, recognizing the de facto sovereignty and legitimacy of the Hamas government in Gaza as long as Hamas does not use its political position to attack Israel.
It will not be easy to sell the Israeli public on a cease-fire that incorporates significant achievements for Hamas. But expanding the operation, known in Hebrew as Pillar of Cloud, entails great political, regional and moral risk.
Netanyahu and Barak, along with Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman, must remember what happened to their predecessors after they missed the moments of grace that would have allowed them to end other wars earlier. The government must not go all the way, even if many Israelis criticize it for failing to do so. Nothing good is waiting for us at the end of such a path. It's enough. The time has come to get off the cloud and put our feet back down on the ground of reality.
