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Israel/Hamas Conflict (pg. 6)
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| aNYthing |
| quote: | Originally posted by Marcus Summers
Syria isn't committing genocide. The rebels are being directly aided by western governments. |
Your talents are wasted here. Your capability for blind denial and distortion of reality are worthy of lead anchor at Fox.
Trololololooooooooo |
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| aNYthing |
| quote: | Originally posted by Viber
Are you insinuating that terrorists are terrorists because of their difficult life circumstances? ****** please, if that was the case you had 1 million Jews going bonanza in Europe after WWII or millions of black people slaughtering white people 24\7 in the US.
You'd think that people without food ,water or medicines (bull) will spend their money on those things instead of spending it on Rockets and AKs but that's just me. |
Well, you must concede that it IS a pretty stable line of work, alas with rather ty benefits until promoted to martyr. And then... All dat virgin azzzz! |
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| AnotherWay83 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Viber
Are you insinuating that terrorists are terrorists because of their difficult life circumstances? ****** please, if that was the case you had 1 million Jews going bonanza in Europe after WWII or millions of black people slaughtering white people 24\7 in the US.
You'd think that people without food ,water or medicines (bull) will spend their money on those things instead of spending it on Rockets and AKs but that's just me. |
i'm saying that denying a population basic human rights and needs creates a perfect breeding ground for terrorists. if you can't grasp that, you're hopeless.
in every example you cited, there's always been some subgroup that rose up and resisted. hamas is no different in that sense. not everyone will spend their time and money on rockets/bombs/violence but if you push them enough, eventually some will resort to violence.
do you understand now? |
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| EddieZilker |
| quote: | Originally posted by AnotherWay83
i'm saying that denying a population basic human rights and needs creates a perfect breeding ground for terrorists. if you can't grasp that, you're hopeless. |
Truth.
The parallels between Israel's policies in the West Bank and South African Apartheid are a little too stark to ignore. Anyone trying to talk about this problem without acknowledging that the only land conceded by Israel has been the moral high-ground is wasting their time, trying to speak to the issue, at all. |
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| Halcyon+On+On |
But Israel's population is 25% Muslim. Yes, they are absolutely marginalizing the psychological and territorial sovereignty of Palestine, but it's not because of one ethnic group vs. another. It's because Israel is the larger, more powerful germ on the block, looking to consume what it can to facilitate its population. Manifest Destiny, friends.
If neighbouring Arab nations were not funneling weapons and resources into Palestine, it would have been an insurgent blip probably 30 years ago, and we wouldn't be hearing about it now. But obviously these same states did not want to recognize Israel as a new nation when it was created (which is a very legit concern), and so fund the pathetic proxy offensive against it in lieu of all-out war. For now.
Mehmehmehmeh. Someone just needs to stop fighting. That's all it takes. These people might just be genetically incapable of doing so, however. |
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| EddieZilker |
| quote: | Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
But Israel's population is 25% Muslim. Yes, they are absolutely marginalizing the psychological and territorial sovereignty of Palestine, but it's not because of one ethnic group vs. another. It's because Israel is the larger, more powerful germ on the block, looking to consume what it can to facilitate its population. Manifest Destiny, friends.
If neighbouring Arab nations were not funneling weapons and resources into Palestine, it would have been an insurgent blip probably 30 years ago, and we wouldn't be hearing about it now. But obviously these same states did not want to recognize Israel as a new nation when it was created (which is a very legit concern), and so fund the pathetic proxy offensive against it in lieu of all-out war. For now.
Mehmehmehmeh. Someone just needs to stop fighting. That's all it takes. These people might just be genetically incapable of doing so, however. |
I pretty much agree with this, as well. Neither side has a monopoly on the moral high-ground and Hamas (along with neighboring states) do their best when it comes to creating the market conditions which legitimize the multitude of private Israeli security firms. |
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| Kylle |
| I think the real country to watch is Syria. Remember last week when Israel was firing into Syrian troop position in retaliation for (stray) mortar rounds landing in Israel? I'll bet there are fewer Israeli tanks sitting around just watching the Syrian boarder. |
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| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by Moral Hazard
While entertaining... it would not work... there is still the issue of all three Abrahamic faiths wanting to control J-town... there are extremists that would not be satisfied with J-town being controled by a pluralist society. That said I would submit that the current hostility is as much due to economic disparity as it is due to religion. |
Hmm... can we send the troublemakers to Florida? I'm sure they'll calm down the moment they see a place with a caliente weather, hot Jewesses, and Mickey Mouse.
As for the economic issues, I agree. But it seems it's linked to a myriad of different issues, the ethnic lines being one of them. If one particular group remains largely poor, and the other doesn't, these conflicts are bound to erupt, don't you think?
| quote: | Originally posted by Moongoose
If all three faiths cant decide between themselves who gets to play with jerusalem its only appropriate that the rest treat them like little children who are arguing over who gets to play with that one toy and take it away from them. And since you cant really move a city away from its location im perfectly satisfied if it gets carpet bombed into oblivion. That way no one gets to play with it and everybody is happy...well, almost everybody. |
That's another idea if we notice we need to send everyone to Florida and they keep flying back :p
| quote: | Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
lol
and why do jews always say
KHamas
its Hamas
are they incapable of saying "h"? |
Apparently, that's the sound represented by the letter ה in Jewspeak (as in "Hava Nagila" [הבה נגילה]). |
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| Viber |
| quote: | Originally posted by AnotherWay83
i'm saying that denying a population basic human rights and needs creates a perfect breeding ground for terrorists. if you can't grasp that, you're hopeless. |
No, there are radical Islamists living in the European utopia, there are terrorists who came from good homes.
Why are all the terrorists radical Islamists? no Arab-Christians or Druze or badawi terrorists.
Let me currect this by saying that Ignorance and radical Islam is the perfect breeding ground for terrorists.
These people dont think like you, just get it already.
| quote: | | in every example you cited, there's always been some subgroup that rose up and resisted. hamas is no different in that sense. not everyone will spend their time and money on rockets/bombs/violence but if you push them enough, eventually some will resort to violence. |
No, Jews never retaliated Germany for what it did, there were plans to avenge but the Jewish people choose to forgive and move on.
The rebellion in the ghettos started after millions of people were slaughtered.
Jews were also persecuted in arab countries before the formation of israel and they lost all their posession, yet we dont know of any Jew running with a knife stabbing people in those years do we? we dont see any Jew who lost his land in Iraq demanding to get it back.
The African-American was mainly known as a peacful,quiet resistence. |
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| Lews |
| If you live in the U.S. and you die from a terrorist, the chances are extremely high they were white and Christian. |
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| Viber |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lews
If you live in the U.S. and you die from a terrorist, the chances are extremely high they were white and Christian. |
*Atheist nutjobs aside. |
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| Viber |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lira
Apparently, that's the sound represented by the letter ה in Jewspeak (as in "Hava Nagila" [הבה נגילה]). |
No,Israelis\jews say it the same as Arabs say it, with the letter ח. as in humus.
English speakers don't have that letter so they say distort any Arab word in general:) |
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