Originally posted by citric_acid
im just saying no matter what people are going to find ways around it. guns arnt the only weapons, people have gone on mass bow and arrow sprees before too.
YA Indian Reserves are very different CITRIC
Sushipunk
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Originally posted by citric_acid
banning guns will do nothing, if someone wants to get a gun they will find one
You're kind of right... but banning guns will certainly make it WAY harder for your 'general psycho killer" to get a hold of a weapon like that.
People with connections will be able to find something, of course, but your normal Joe off the street won't, if/when he snaps.
That's what it's like here, in Australia.
In 1996 there was a massacre here in AU, in Port Authur. 35 people were killed and 23 wounded. That prompted our government to swiftly change our gun laws, so it would be less likely to happen again. The Govt. spent a lot of money actually buying back people's guns as part of the legal restructuring. Many people were against it at the time, but I doubt too many people now can deny that our country is safer because of it.
[edit] I do realise that the US can't do the same thing that we did, because of the high population and the sheer number of guns there in your country... but you have to change something. It's getting nuts.
Moongoose
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Originally posted by Vivid Boy
YA Indian Reserves are very different CITRIC
Either case, im not an expert on this but im prepare to stake my life on the fact that its easier to tackle someone wielding a bow and arrows than someone with an automatic weapon.
EddieZilker
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Originally posted by Sushipunk
[edit] I do realise that the US can't do the same thing that we did, because of the high population and the sheer number of guns there in your country... but you have to change something. It's getting nuts.
You have to change a lot of things. I think changing our gun laws would be a great start but that's only part of the solution. American culture, in particular, seems to promote social inequality as an ideal. When you have companies like Walmart who treat their employees poorly so their investors have a larger share of the bottom line, it only contributes to economic/social distress. The result is a lot of angry people with access to weapons - many of whom should not have them.
I'm not for a ban on assault weapons but I do think they should make it much harder to get. I'm pretty sure that 100% of the weapons used in these massacres were purchased legally, at one point. It seems like a gun purchased on the black market is less likely to be used in mass murders such as this incident and the recent one in Colorado.
I actually plan on owning an AR15. Most of its use would have to do with recreational target practice. To that end, however, I'm not ignoring the possibility of having to defend my home with it. That said, I wouldn't mind having to jump through some considerable hoops to get it.
Part of the problem is that the NRA has managed to corrode the intellectual merit of the debate to such a degree that it is damn near impossible to have a realistic conversation about who should and who should not be able to purchase a gun let alone what measures should be taken to enforce new legislation that actually has some efficacy to it. Every time something like this happens and people start talking about gun control, NRA's response has been to stifle the discussion with outrageous claims (almost always slippery slope fallacies) that the second amendment will be eroded when people are forced to prove they're sane enough to purchase a firearm.
Many of those who oppose the NRA indulge in the same level of unreasonableness, arguing that a 30 round clip is completely unnecessary to protect ones home on the assumption that all tactical situations are easily resolved with six bullets or less. Both NRA and anti-gun activists seem to operate with the same black-and-white hedging strategy. It either has to be the most restrictive law on the books or the least. There's no room for middle ground reasonableness. Anti-gun proponents are only willing to let you have a pea-shooter but the NRA wants to make certain that the paranoid personality disordered are free to stock-pile 500 AK-47s with drum-fed magazines. It essentially rules out a compromise that would have legitimate efficacy and probably work to stem the increase in mass-murder by gun.
China had an attack in a school, today, as well. The man was armed with a knife rather than guns; that probably ensured that most if not all of the children will survive their ordeal. The fact remains that getting rid of guns isn't going to prohibit people from being violent. There are any number of factors contributing to such violence and while reasonable, efficacious legislation concerning guns is a good start there are a host of other issues that, were they adequately resolved, would alleviate the prevalence of such massacres even if gun laws don't necessarily change.
speedyrolls
You all pretty much know who this is based on that preposterous suspension. Go and make the ban permanent, because I will NEVER be active on this site again. I'm a loner with no friends so what the do I have to lose with the keyboard at the behest of my presence?
I didn't know posting an embedded youtube video can all of a sudden lead to some 40+ year old geezer threatening to land me in the infirmary. What a HUGE ing overreaction of a post, seriously. Come on Eddie, be honest and admit that your OWN stupidity is what triggered your post and not your recipient. You had to exaggerate that ing bad and request a ban for what - posting a video from youtube? If you thought I was disrespecting the deceased in any way, shape, or form by posting it, then you're a ing moron. Really, get a grip.
The statement that MEN ARE EVIL has to be the TRUEST, MOST ACCURATE phrase that could ever describe every bitch and son of a bitch walking this earth right now. I realize you atheists are ing clueless when it came to that statement but if you don't see the negativity that permeates in EVERY member here or outside the community, then you're just hopelessly naive and clueless as . Go examine yourself and see the ed up you do every waking moment of your life, and that even includes myself. You're probably too stubborn to see your own flaws. There's bad news being reported on the daily channel EVERY DAY the sun rises and sets. There's even a lot more ed off events that don't even make the TV. What happened in Connecticut was surprising, but unsurprising at the same time. People have been tearing each other for centuries and centuries, so get ing used to it.
Show me ONE post I made in this thread that could even REMOTELY lead to a member being banned - ONE POST. In the PM, this pseudo-moderator Lira said I got ousted for saying "overreaction much?" HAHAHAHAHA. Jesus Christ, what world am I living in? How the could that statement even have the SLIGHTEST impact on a member's account status? You must be on some powerful drugs kid.
That was by far the poorest judgment a mod can ever ing have in handing down justice - just horrendous. your suspension was even worse compared to montana's in his random appreciation thread years ago, that I don't even know where to begin. Sushipunk can also off for even accepting that bull call. This site's heyday is long ing gone anyway, so have fun while this declining site fades into obscurity.
Kylle
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Originally posted by Lira
I doubt you will troll here or anywhere else for the next two weeks
Isn't that a bit harsh? After all he said he was sorry. Does he always troll like that?
Do you think he wasn't being sincere with his apology?
wotyzoid
Oh Matt don't leave, we love you over at MD.
Desiderata
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Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
anyone seen pictures of this adam lanza guy yet?
Yeah, they are showing a picture now. It's an old black and white photo though and they said they found writing that might shed some light on why he did it.
Redd
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Originally posted by wotyzoid
Oh Matt don't leave, we love you over at MD.
no :(
Jon_Snow
We should regulate bullets. If you want to shoot someone, you need to apply for a permit to purchase the bullets. The form would include who do you want to shoot, how many times you want to shoot them and why you feel the need to do it. You could limit the number of people you can shoot to no greater than 1 per day. Chances are by the time you got through the red tape and got your bullet you'd cooled off about the idea.
Vivid Boy
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Originally posted by Moongoose
Either case, im not an expert on this but im prepare to stake my life on the fact that its easier to tackle someone wielding a bow and arrows than someone with an automatic weapon.
the trick to the automatic weapon is during the dive you should be barrel rolling. I've seen arnold do it and jackie chan
EddieZilker
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Originally posted by Kylle
Does he always troll like that?
He started posting his "all men are evil" nonsense in the thread concerning the massacre at the Colorado movie theater. And yes, he does always troll like that.
