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Matrix Revolutions (pg. 13)
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| Psy-Trancer |
| somewhere u said that everyone shold have been liberated from smiths control after he died..and u said only the oracle was freed...not true...the lil indian gurl was freed...the chinese dude was freed......and so forth |
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| whiskers |
| quote: | Originally posted by Alccode
Not really haha, it would totally negate the equation and equate it to 0 or something! :toothless
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but that's perfect, a divide by zero and voila - earth has several billion years to clean itself up and 'evolutionize' a new race of ppl.
by the way, does anyone else feel like the outside machine world was like underworld / hell, even though it was on top?
and, man, when they surfaced above the clouds and trinity saw the sun... that was awesome... but she served her purpose and thus she died, although they could've done it in a less cheesy, less obvious way than do the "what's wrong, trinity" "i've been pierced by 2 cables" shot. heh. |
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| astroboy |
| quote: | Originally posted by Alccode
As to when exactly he fought Smith in the past, I dunno...
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Perhaps the cycle requires a Smith as well as a Neo, to serve as his Nemesis and to drive him on... So as well as a neo there was also a smith in every preceding matrix, while Seraph the oracle, the architect and a few others remained (exogenous factos of the model or constants in the equation if you will lol). |
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| astroboy |
| quote: | Originally posted by whiskers
sorry, i prefer not to apply buddhist philosophy to sci fi movies, no matter how applicable it might be.
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Any particular reason for that? Sounds a bit arbitrary, without giving a justification... Is it just Buddhist philosophy or eastern philosophy in general, or philosophy in general?
To me the little robed bald kid who says "there is no spoon" is almost as explicit a reference to Buddhism as the appearance of "Simulacra and Simulation" is to Baudrillard.
| quote: | | by the way, does anyone else feel like the outside machine world was like underworld / hell, even though it was on top? |
That could work...
Matrix = Heaven
Zion = Earth = "middle world" present in a few mythologies
Machine world = hell |
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| whiskers |
| quote: | Originally posted by astroboy
Any particular reason for that? Sounds a bit arbitrary, without giving a justification... Is it just Buddhist philosophy or eastern philosophy in general, or philosophy in general?
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i just don't like overanalyzing things, when you overanalyze, you take suck the fun out of them... philosophy's all right, but when it's buddhist and there's a lot of it, that's just too much for me. i prefer to think that this is mostly an action movie and that buddhist philosophy is at a minimum... although the bible thing... gah... |
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| astroboy |
| quote: | Originally posted by whiskers
i just don't like overanalyzing things, when you overanalyze, you take suck the fun out of them... philosophy's all right, but when it's buddhist and there's a lot of it, that's just too much for me. i prefer to think that this is mostly an action movie and that buddhist philosophy is at a minimum... although the bible thing... gah... |
Yeah with my weirdass personality I apply philosophy to almost everything... makes it more "fun" for me in a way. I guess it depends tho... But surely you must've seen the Budrillard hyperreality thing in the first one... :D |
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| whiskers |
| what the , 1:30 am, the fire alarm just went off in my dorm... ing s, i keel |
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| whiskers |
| quote: | Originally posted by astroboy
Yeah with my weirdass personality I apply philosophy to almost everything... makes it more "fun" for me in a way. I guess it depends tho... But surely you must've seen the Budrillard hyperreality thing in the first one... :D |
budrillar hyperreality..? what is that?
i, too, sometimes apply philosophy to stuff, but lately it hasn't been much fun... and this fire alarm is driving me crazy... i'm having the weirdest night ever......
EDIT: oh, i see what you mean with hyperreality... interesting... |
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| astroboy |
| Yeah typo, I meand Jean Baudrillard... heheh you must've been like 'budrillar hyperreality, wtf is that' heheh |
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| whiskers |
| quote: | Originally posted by astroboy
Yeah typo, I meand Jean Baudrillard... heheh you must've been like 'budrillar hyperreality, wtf is that' heheh |
lol, that's all right, google corrects spelling mistakes ;) |
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| hardcore trancer |
| ok one thing I didnt understand,and that was the black cat at the end,I mean we've seen this black cat from the first movie if u remember,is there a meaning behind that??:conf: |
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| Resnick |
| quote: | Originally posted by hardcore trancer
ok one thing I didnt understand,and that was the black cat at the end,I mean we've seen this black cat from the first movie if u remember,is there a meaning behind that??:conf: |
they reset the matrix^^
oh and did anyone else notice neo not taking the candy?:D :D |
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