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Religious debate on Jews/Passion of the Christ (pg. 16)
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| anuneventrade |
| quote: | Originally posted by WhoaNellie1487
You totally don't get what I'm saying. It's not that God needs money. It's just a sign that you love God enough that you're willing to give up your money, it's also showing that money has no control over you.. Don't you understand? |
So if someone doesn't have enough money to provide for their children, so they starve in order for their kids to eat, they should still fork over 10% of their pay? :rolleyes:
You shouldn't have to pay to prove your faith. In any religion. |
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| Galapidate |
| quote: | Originally posted by anuneventrade
You shouldn't have to pay to prove your faith. In any religion.[/font] |
I smell some R.W. Emerson here :D |
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| anuneventrade |
| quote: | Originally posted by Galapidate
I smell some R.W. Emerson here :D |
Are you calling me a transcendentalist? :thepirate |
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| WhoaNellie1487 |
| quote: | Originally posted by anuneventrade
So if someone doesn't have enough money to provide for their children, so they starve in order for their kids to eat, they should still fork over 10% of their pay? :rolleyes:
You shouldn't have to pay to prove your faith. In any religion. |
You are asked to pay,not demanded, it's not paying God to prove your faith. It's giving up 10% to show that money is not to control you.. If you give your 10%, you will be given back to. God will bless you. |
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| WhoaNellie1487 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Cyrus King
how do you know what god wants and doesnt want????? How the hell doyou know?? Did that book tell you???? How did you come up with these answers?
This is geting ridiculous |
It's not called " That Book ",It's The Bible,the Bible does tell what God wants. |
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| WhoaNellie1487 |
| quote: | Originally posted by DigiNut
Allow me to put a pre-emptive stop to this line of reasoning:
If something is deeply personal to you, then that means it is completely SUBJECTIVE. You CANNOT debate with subjective arguments! If you have nothing objective to say, then it is not worth hearing [in the context of this debate].
I'm sure you might be a very nice person to get to know, but for the purposes of this debate, nobody gives a about your personal life. |
I entered this debate, then people started going on about how God isn't real,but for a fact I do know He is. I'm not going to post it all out in public,but if people do want to know I have invited them to PM me. So, either way people are still getting their answer, those I trust that is. |
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| anuneventrade |
| quote: | Originally posted by WhoaNellie1487
You are asked to pay,not demanded, it's not paying God to prove your faith. It's giving up 10% to show that money is not to control you.. If you give your 10%, you will be given back to. God will bless you. |
So wait- God's not going to bless me unless I pay him to? When Christianity was started, I highly doubt that they had evolved to yearly salaries yet, so I'm quite doubtful that they had to give up 10% then, which means, that throughout history, individuals did not always have to pay. :rolleyes:
Yes... with those collection baskets they send around... they aren't demanding at ALL! :rolleyes:
Yeap, I think I'm just going to stick to what I believe :) |
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| tathi |
| quote: | Dick Sutphen professional hypnotist and author of Persuasion & Brainwashing Techniques Being Used On The Public Today
Right about this time, when an eyes-open mass-induced alpha mental state has been achieved, they will usually pass the collection plate or basket. In the background, a 45-beat-per-minute voice roll from the assistant preacher might exhort, "Give to God Give to God Give to God" And the audience does give. God may not get the money, but his already wealthy representative will |
they don't have to demand, at this stage of church you are about 25 times more suggestable than when you walked in, it's called brainwashing. |
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| anuneventrade |
| quote: | Originally posted by WhoaNellie1487
I entered this debate, then people started going on about how God isn't real,but for a fact I do know He is. I'm not going to post it all out in public,but if people do want to know I have invited them to PM me. So, either way people are still getting their answer, those I trust that is. |
Be careful, they are all obese 60 year old men that are going to track down all of your information as they hack through your PM box... omg! Look outside your window!
:haha: |
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| WhoaNellie1487 |
| quote: | Originally posted by anuneventrade
So wait- God's not going to bless me unless I pay him to? When Christianity was started, I highly doubt that they had evolved to yearly salaries yet, so I'm quite doubtful that they had to give up 10% then, which means, that throughout history, individuals did not always have to pay. :rolleyes:
Yeap, I think I'm just going to stick to what I believe :) |
No,that's not what I'm saying. You are totally twisting what I'm saying. It's not paying like you're thinking it is. It is giving up money willfully, to God.. so that his will can be done, like helping others you know?
For example,with all the tithe money from my family we're helping Jews in Russia get home. So far, we've gotten 3 people home.
We also give to an organization,where you take a shoe box and you fill it full of things like toys, tooth paste,shampoo,clothing,and makeup...etc and you send them to adults and children who are in need.
That's what tithe money goes to. |
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| WhoaNellie1487 |
| quote: | Originally posted by anuneventrade
Be careful, they are all obese 60 year old men that are going to track down all of your information as they hack through your PM box... omg! Look outside your window!
:haha: |
and that's the reason I didn't post the personal reasons, because I knew someone would start in being immature. |
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| tathi |
| quote: | WhoaNellie
For example,with all the tithe money from my family we're helping Jews in Russia get home. So far, we've gotten 3 people home. |
oh dear, you shouldn't mention the J-word in a thread or it will get hijacked
and we're having too much fun laughing at idiot fundamentalists to let this thread become an Israel / Palestine topic |
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