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more trance producers than listeners ? Airbase quits... (pg. 7)
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*Cleans Throat*
Ok, I just read three pages of this thread , which helped me to specify ideas.
1 - In order to grow as a producer, you must experiment with other styles, so what Airbase is doing, is completely normal, perhaps in the future, with his experience in the new style , he'll be able to create that new sound in trance that we have been waiting for.
2 - Trance is not dying ,is just in the lower part of the oscillation, but you'll see it will begin to rise again. Why I don't believe is dying is because while some people leaves behind their apetite for trance , some others discover it and adopts it as their new style as producers or listeners.
3 - Don't quit because others quit , is like jumping off the bridge just because your best pal did, while Airbase is lacking of creativity for trance and overflowing for another style , there are 5 more with new bright ideas, plus independent musicians making the best music available. |
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| RIPassion |
I think some people have overlooked something. When saying trance is dying, what form of trance do you REALLY mean? And what do you mean by DYING? REAL trance is lurking somewhere underneath. Trance isn't just this evolved, for lack of a better term, 'supersaw' genre that's being repeated over and over. Trance is a certain feeling. It used to hit you when you were on the floor and heard cafe del mar and enervate, remember? That feeling will always exist regardless of whether commericalism subdues it. As a lover of said emotion, I want to unearth the sound which has hidden itself within the supersaws, and you should too.
This really boils down to people 'giving up.' Just because Airbase is popular and his tracks 'sound' really good, when he says "I think trance is boring now and everyone wants to do it," people view that as "trance must be dying." These new tracks aren't even hurting real trance in the first place, they're just hiding it... seriously.
Help me, help yourself, help everyone find it :)
For those of you are worried about changing your taste/style..
Look how often Sasha changes his taste in music and how well he's held onto his fan base...
All in all, just follow your damn emotion and quit worrying so much. Because trance is an emotion (or rather a huge spectrum of emotions), if you belive in it, it stays alive. Kind of like Santa, except... real. |
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| Massive84 |
| quote: | Originally posted by ZxZDeViLZxZ
factory presets might suck but simple searching google for refils or even p2p programs you will find refils that are 100% what youd hear on asot so off reason is .... and i will allways blame reason for the tie sound i now hear in trance. the lacking basslines tie formed sounds that anyone can make. lack of intelgent and complex effects. program a fm synth and let me hear what you come up with programming fm synths is ing hard considering the way you must go about it unless you want just randomness. and note i said i dont just click preset-> superuberSaw and tweak the cutoff and reso and go omg look at me im making that i hear armin spin every week on his cheeze of trance show. |
George Hales
MK-S
I even even going to include my self.
Many more
All powerful bass sounds and lines.
Complexity? What does Reason have to do with that? And a good supersaw preset?? i so wish Reason could produce a supersaw.
Am trying to say is that it's the producer that makes the difference not the software. |
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| ac dc |
trance is dying?
it havent even started in my country...:eyes:
its still the square rooms and the toxic reigning supreme here...:nervous: |
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| josh |
Believe in urself.
Believe ur heart!
Trance is in my heart! We are moving on.
They left the scene. Thats their biz. If some of ppl were sick of their sound, that could explain why they wanna leave.:tongue2
Trust Yourself. Trust Trance :D |
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| Subtle |
| Trance is dying in the fact that it aint selling.. |
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| Timothy |
| Big events like Sensation and TIC are still being sold out. And just the fact that they asked Tijs ( DJ Tiesto ) to spin tracks at the 2004 Olympics makes me think that trance isn't dying ( yet ). The entire music industry ( not just trance ) is selling less tracks and we all know the reason of that. :rolleyes: |
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| DRM |
| quote: | Originally posted by Subtle
Trance is dying in the fact that it aint selling.. |
lol bollox, its still ridiculously popular and will stay that way for a while |
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| Luke Terry |
| quote: | Originally posted by Massive84
Complexity? What does Reason have to do with that? And a good supersaw preset?? i so wish Reason could produce a supersaw. |
lol, it can ;)
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| ZxZDeViLZxZ |
| no doubt mystrey its the person not the software.... but you just were an easy target..... i simply blame reason for the downfall of good trance.... good trance as in nice sounds flowing changing melodys progressing sounds huge epic build ups accompied with enough bass rattleing to make the walls shake. |
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| State of Matter |
| How about instead of ignorantly scapegoating, you target your frustrations at the true problem? Faster computers, innovations in software, and broadband internet make it easy for anybody to set up a fully functional "studio" in a few hours. Trance, requiring no knowledge of how to play an instrument and no singing ability, is a very easy genre to start with. The result of all of this is unbelievable saturation of the market for trance. There are so many people who claim to be producers but dont take the time to master their craft and the result is a genre flooded with mediocre tracks. This has NOTHING to do with Reason alone, FL Studio, Cubase, and Logic are just as guilty. The point is, with skill you can make a banging track in anything, without it you'll have the same flat, boring trance even if you've got Armin's studio. So stop making a fool of yourself. |
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| ZxZDeViLZxZ |
| have you ever listen to track made in reason on a very good sound system noy from mp3 but from vinyl.... it serously lacks sound depth |
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