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My evolution theory involving fa...*ahem* i mean homosexuality (pg. 18)
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| Psy-T |
| quote: | Originally posted by Moral Hazard
I resent this post as it presupposes that my penis is not gorgeous. While I do not actually believe my penis to be gorgeous (especially if attractiveness is a function of size cause damn I'm really ed in that department) that is my assertion to make, not yours. Oh and maybe Jamie can speak to this as she would be the only other person on this board to know about my penis. |
it did not presuppose anything about anyone, as i was referring to it as a consolation, not a different avenue in which i can 'defeat' you :p |
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| Psy-T |
| quote: | Originally posted by RickyM
I completely disagree. |
then give your definition for 'natural' and your reasons for disagreement :conf: |
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| Moral Hazard |
| quote: | Originally posted by Psy-T
then give your definition for 'natural' and your reasons for disagreement :conf: |
Agreed, you must define your terms. Debating a subject without defined terms is tantamount to mapping fog. |
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| RickyM |
Natural = "Conforming to the usual or ordinary course of nature".
Given that Heterosexuality is the ordinary case of nature, homosexuality is a deviation from this, and is therefore unnatural. And if dolphins, apes and humans are the only species that practice homosexuality, well I think that leaves millions of other species that do not. |
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| FallingMoon |
| quote: | Originally posted by Trance Nutter
attention whore? |
I don't do it in front of people. so no. |
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| Moral Hazard |
| quote: | Originally posted by RickyM
Natural = "Conforming to the usual or ordinary course of nature".
Given that Heterosexuality is the ordinary case of nature, homosexuality is a deviation from this, and is therefore unnatural. And if dolphins, apes and humans are the only species that practice homosexuality, well I think that leaves millions of other species that do not. |
Now you need to define usual and ordinary as they are subjective terms. Depending on your definition of these terms one could conclude that you define Natrual to mean "Conforming to the actions of an entity undertaken of its own will excluding external influance". Using this definition homosexuality is Natural. Your definition could also mean "Conforming to the actions of the majority of individuals withing the population of a species". Using this definition homosexuality would not be Natural..... of course using this definition it would be "natural" for dogs to wear collars and metal tags. |
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| Moral Hazard |
| quote: | Originally posted by FallingMoon
I don't do it in front of people. so no. |
I think it means you derive pleasure from a physical intimacy with women while reserving sexual and/or romantic intimacy for men. Too many people insist that actions such as kissing have to have some sort of deeper emotional or sexual meaning, perhaps to you it is simply an enjoyable activity to engage in.
Of course it could also mean that you're into chicks but either prevent yourself from fully exploring that curiosity or urge due to some self-limiting behaviour. |
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| RickyM |
| quote: | Originally posted by Moral Hazard
Now you need to define usual and ordinary as they are subjective terms. Depending on your definition of these terms one could conclude that you define Natrual to mean "Conforming to the actions of an entity undertaken of its own will excluding external influance". Using this definition homosexuality is Natural. Your definition could also mean "Conforming to the actions of the majority of individuals withing the population of a species". Using this definition homosexuality would not be Natural..... of course using this definition it would be "natural" for dogs to wear collars and metal tags. |
Ok Professor, I didn't think I would have to define words for you, I realise they are subjective terms, so here are my definitions of the two words:
Ordinary : "The usual or normal condition or course of events".
Of course, you agree that heterosexuality is the normal condtion or course of events?
Usual: "In conformity with regular practice or procedure".
Also, heterosexuality fits this definition.
I await your response, and further disection of my post with great anticipation. |
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| igottaknow |
| mod: plz close or move this thread to the PPD section. the sight of it in the COR is starting to make me feel ill. |
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| Psy-T |
| quote: | Originally posted by RickyM
Ordinary : "The usual or normal condition or course of events".
Of course, you agree that heterosexuality is the normal condtion or course of events? |
there is nothing in that definition to enable you to diffrentiate between heterosexuals and homosexuals. not to mention your definition is entirely circular in nature therefor can not be used any more logically than the bible can for instance.
| quote: | Originally posted by RickyM
Usual: "In conformity with regular practice or procedure".
Also, heterosexuality fits this definition.
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Also, homosexuality fits this definition, because it's regularly practiced, even is less often than heterosexuality is. |
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| Radagast |
| quote: | Originally posted by Psy-T
thw word doesnt become redundant, plastic is unnatural.
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I think this is where our good friend Arbiter comes to the rescue, or rather, something he said in this post.
That logic, slightly modified, can be applied to...pretty much anything, including plastic.
1. That which is derived from nature is natural. (by def. of natural)
2. Human beings are derived from nature. (premise)
3. Plastic is created by humans. (premise)
4. That which is created by something is also derived from it. (by def. of derive)
5. Plastic is derived from nature. (by 1 and 3)
6. Plastic is natural (by 1 and 5)
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and heterosexual sex isn't natural any more so or less so than homosexual sex. |
They're both natural, and as Arbiter pointed out way back in the 2K2, so is everything else, by logical extension. |
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