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My evolution theory involving fa...*ahem* i mean homosexuality (pg. 19)
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Psy-T
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Originally posted by igottaknow
mod: plz close or move this thread to the PPD section. Its too ghey even for me.


you're right, it'd fit there much better, but there's no voice in there to express the homophobia.. it'd die within a day :p
FallingMoon
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Originally posted by Moral Hazard
I think it means you derive pleasure from a physical intimacy with women while reserving sexual and/or romantic intimacy for men. Too many people insist that actions such as kissing have to have some sort of deeper emotional or sexual meaning, perhaps to you it is simply an enjoyable activity to engage in.



Of course it could also mean that you're into chicks but either prevent yourself from fully exploring that curiosity or urge due to some self-limiting behaviour.


I've had the opportunity to explore my curiosity but I haven't because I do not find women as appealing as men, don't get me wrong I think kissing women is both fun & enjoyable but I don't see myself becoming romantically intimate with them because my personal preference is men. Also the fact that I love sex, the kind of sex a man & woman have. Call it a hobby or extracurricular activity :tongue3. It's just something I take pleasure in doing when I find a woman attractive & of course if she is willing to participate.
igottaknow
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Originally posted by Psy-T
you're right, it'd fit there much better, but there's no voice in there to express the homophobia.. it'd die within a day :p

you make a good point
Moral Hazard
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Originally posted by RickyM
Ok Professor, I didn't think I would have to define words for you, I realise they are subjective terms, so here are my definitions of the two words:

Ordinary : "The usual or normal condition or course of events".

Of course, you agree that heterosexuality is the normal condtion or course of events?

Usual: "In conformity with regular practice or procedure".

Also, heterosexuality fits this definition.

I await your response, and further disection of my post with great anticipation.


You've still failed to define ordinary as you've further used subjective terms.

Regardless, I believe what you are trying to say is that heterosexuality is natural because the majority of creatures on the planet engage in heterosexual sex rather then homosexual sex.

If this is the case then I believe that you are confusing normal and natural. IF the majority of a population meets a certain standard or engages in a certain behaviour then that behaviour is normal, I'll give you that much. That said actions or trates that are abnormal can still be natural. For instance, it is abnormal for humans to be albino in pigmentation, however, there is nothing unnatural about albino pigmentation. It is abnormal for cougers to kill and eat humans, however, it is not contrary to nature.
Psy-T
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Originally posted by Radagast
I think this is where our good friend Arbiter comes to the rescue, or rather, something he said in this post.

That logic, slightly modified, can be applied to...pretty much anything, including plastic.

1. That which is derived from nature is natural. (by def. of natural)
2. Human beings are derived from nature. (premise)
3. Plastic is created by humans. (premise)
4. That which is created by something is also derived from it. (by def. of derive)
5. Plastic is derived from nature. (by 1 and 3)
6. Plastic is natural (by 1 and 5)




They're both natural, and as Arbiter pointed out way back in the 2K2, so is everything else, by logical extension.



in this case i was using the word natural to mean exists outside the human realm, with no direct relation to humans. homesexuality does exist in this way, while plastics do not.

though i do agree with what arbiter said for practical (aswell as most theoretical) purposes.
Moral Hazard
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Originally posted by FallingMoon
I've had the opportunity to explore my curiosity but I haven't because I do not find women as appealing as men, don't get me wrong I think kissing women is both fun & enjoyable but I don't see myself becoming romantically intimate with them because my personal preference is men. Also the fact that I love sex, the kind of sex a man & woman have. Call it a hobby or extracurricular activity :tongue3. It's just something I take pleasure in doing when I find a woman attractive & of course if she is willing to participate.


Then my initial assessment is correct!

I must ask a question though. You have a boyfriend of some significance, correct? How does he feel about you making out with girls? If he's okay with it then I follow that question up with this one..... is it possible that your affinity for making out with women is due to it being a safe (without negative consequence) manner of gaining sexual attention from persons other then your boyfirend?
Radagast
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Originally posted by Psy-T
in this case i was using the word natural to mean exists outside the human realm, with no direct relation to humans. homesexuality does exist in this way, while plastics do not.


The word homosexual itself is not inherently related to human beings, but in this thread it was intended to be. Since homosexuality means erotic actions with another of the same sex, and in the case of this thread, human beings of the same sex, I am wondering why you believe that bringing up the fact that the word homosexual isn't inherently related to humans is relevant to anything here. Humans are not the only things that are inherently natural or derived from nature. The logic does not depend on only humans being able to produce or create something.
tribu
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Originally posted by Moral Hazard
You've still failed to define ordinary as you've further used subjective terms.

Regardless, I believe what you are trying to say is that heterosexuality is natural because the majority of creatures on the planet engage in heterosexual sex rather then homosexual sex.

If this is the case then I believe that you are confusing normal and natural. IF the majority of a population meets a certain standard or engages in a certain behaviour then that behaviour is normal, I'll give you that much. That said actions or trates that are abnormal can still be natural. For instance, it is abnormal for humans to be albino in pigmentation, however, there is nothing unnatural about albino pigmentation. It is abnormal for cougers to kill and eat humans, however, it is not contrary to nature.


RickyM's argument is a condemmed building and here comes the Moral Hazard demolition company
Psy-T
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Originally posted by Moral Hazard
Then my initial assessment is correct!
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wanna do my fetish next? :gsmile:


(just ignore the fact i already partially explained it earlier in the thread :p)
Floorfiller
boy i got a lot stupider by reading this whole thread...

igottaknow
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Originally posted by Floorfiller
boy i got a lot stupider by reading this whole thread...

:stongue: but your still smarter than the thread creator
Psy-T
quote:
Originally posted by Radagast
The word homosexual itself is not inherently related to human beings, but in this thread it was intended to be. Since homosexuality means erotic actions with another of the same sex, and in the case of this thread, human beings of the same sex, I am wondering why you believe that bringing up the fact that the word homosexual isn't inherently related to humans is relevant to anything here. Humans are not the only things that are natural. The logic does not depend on only humans being able to produce or create something.


because people claimed it to be unnatural, or in other words, something that does not occur in nature. obviously some of the people who repeated such statements were referring to humans as unnatural beings, while not tainting any other animals with the same 'insult'.
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