Originally posted by LYNDSAYwhaaat?
Palin isnt my biggest hero, by any means. McCain isn't either. As far as Rich's assertion that Palin lacks foreign policy experience, he's right. That said, so does Obama. When asked what he'd have done over the whole Russian invasion of Georgia, he said he'd take the issue to the UN, where Russia has the veto power to override anything the UN could ever do to correct the matter. Obama is also inexperienced and even though he can dish out verbal hand jobs internationally, his understanding of the dynamics of foreign policy thus far have shown how dangerous he might be. Biden is his only hope to accomplish a anything internationally...IMHO.
As for abortion... It is what it is in the minds of those who partake. I'm not going to get into that argument. I will say this, the same person who condemns Palin for choosing to have a less than perfect baby would have chosen to abort the likes of Stephen Hawking too. That would have been a horrible loss for this world. Less than perfect doesn't mean a human being can't make a far greater impact than someone who is physically perfect. I'll leave it at that.
As for gun control not being an important issue.... Hitler, Fidel Castro, Linen and Mow are all horrible dictators who really enjoyed not having to deal with an armed populous. Look at the good they did for this world. There's a damn good reason our founding fathers felt that the second amendment was such an important right. Once we no longer have guns to defend ourselves and offset government power with, nothing will be our decision anymore anyway. As far as nancy pelosi (speaker of the house and a democrat) is concerned, sporting weapons should all be severely and strictly controlled and everything else should be confiscated. It's dangerous . Remember this, politicians really DONT know what's best for you. It's not their job to decide that. That's up to us, the voting public.
Oh really "Lyndsay"? :stongue:
R!CH
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Originally posted by revitalizedbeat
im registered independent ;)
i don't really see this as being a good thing. when you decline to state a party, the parties who do define their views have no idea what you're thinking and how to adapt. a large population of independent voters is a large population with a huge question mark. republicans and democrats don't know what to make of the tide of public opinion and thus they campaign on ultra-similar, ultra-narrow, ultra-populist views like god and national pride. imagine if 40% of registered voters were independent. now imagine if that 40% registered green party. politicians and parties would understand that 40% out there are for consumer advocacy and environmental regulation. if it was 40% libertarian, they'd know that 40% are for constitutional law and unintrusive government. even if you don't entirely agree with the nominee of a third party, it's better to register with one whose ideology you fit with. that way you empower a third party AND make a political statement that politicians actually pay attention to.
R!CH
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Originally posted by djjoshuaallen
Mccain is quite moderate by todays republican standards, why do you think he had to pick such a jesus loving conservative as his running mate? It was neccessary to get the extreme conservative votes.
And candidates always drift off to the left or right approaching elections to appeal to the party, but often move toward the middle once elected.
republican standards is an oxymoron. mccain being moderate by today's standards means nothing. america has had an increasingly authoritarian right-leaning government for the last century and being perfectly centrist is still being very authoritarian right-leaning. i don't agree with the notion that mccain had to do anything more extreme to get conservative votes. he could have sponsored a democrat for vp and they'd still have no better option.
usually the way it goes is both parties drift to the political extremities to charge their base for the national convention, then they dash to the center for the popular vote. now it's more of a branding strategy. since the democratic party is a multicultural socioeconomic melting pot, they have never had a well-defined popular identity like the macho small-town hayseed bible-thumping cowboy maverick bumpkin republicans. the gop is playing on that weakness over and over again because their image appeals to more simple, nostalgic times. see the article i posted on the palin mythology.
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Originally posted by djjoshuaallen
Obama has no track record of accomplishments as he has only been in the senate for 3 years and has not even voted the past 1.5 because of the campaign. So I am supposed to judge him on 1.5 years in the senate? Maybe i should just become convince because he can deliver a speech well?
dick cheney and donald rumsfeld have past accomplishments and experience. does that make them good leaders? bush had a ton of executive experience before he was elected, how did that work out? experience is way overrated. you can have no experience and the kind of intelligence to surround yourself with the best advisors and get much more done than the guy who thinks highly of his own qualifications.
xenpro
T.A.S.D. just shut the up already
I think this might be the only time that I agree with Clovis on something
Lets just say all politicians lie
How about the facts on what they have accomplished in their personal lives?
you chose
Barack Obama
Columbia University (Political science with a specialization in international relations)
Harvard Law School (Juris Doctor)
Joe Biden
University of Delaware (Double major in history and political science)
Syracuse University College of Law (Juris Doctor)
vs.
John McCain
Naval Academy (God the knows what type of studies)
Sarah Palin
University of Idaho (communications-journalism)
R!CH
it's worth noting that mccain graduated 894th out of 899 in his class and palin transferred in and out of 5 colleges before receiving a bachelor in communication.
revitalizedbeat
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Originally posted by R!CH
it's worth noting that mccain graduated 894th out of 899 in his class and palin transferred in and out of 5 colleges before receiving a bachelor in communication.
5 collages ahahaha and only for a B.A
CND
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Originally posted by Clovis
Go take a class on socialism because you have no idea what it is.
I have and got a good idea what it is.
Like living with your mom. Permanently.
junkproject
Ron paul for pres.... oh wait to late.
DJ RANN
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Originally posted by revitalizedbeat
5 collages ahahaha and only for a B.A
Oh yeah, and don't forget, during military school he crashed 5 (yes five) planes and never once got reprimanded. Just as well his grandaddy and daddy were admirals, otherwise he would have got booted out like some of his similar classmates, except they only got to crash once.
Seriously, this is not a man of great intelligence, he's not dumb, but he's not intellectually qualified to have his finger on the button.
While Obama was getting his doctorate at Harvard this is what Palin was doing (and doing it badly)....
|Thrax|
Damnit Rich, I think you said all that needed to be said above.
Bravo.
TASD, use your in brain.
EOM,NRN
DJ RANN
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Originally posted by |Thrax|
Damnit Rich, I think you said all that needed to be said above.
Bravo.
TASD, use your in brain.
EOM,NRN
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sponger
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Originally posted by DJ RANN
Oh yeah, and don't forget, during military school he crashed 5 (yes five) planes and never once got reprimanded. Just as well his grandaddy and daddy were admirals, otherwise he would have got booted out like some of his similar classmates, except they only got to crash once.
Seriously, this is not a man of great intelligence, he's not dumb, but he's not intellectually qualified to have his finger on the button.
While Obama was getting his doctorate at Harvard this is what Palin was doing (and doing it badly)....
:stongue: youre one to talk about someones inteligence when you think the right to bear arms is the first amendment tard!
