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Intelligent Design Theory (pg. 28)
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| Theresa |
| quote: | Originally posted by D-res
That's clear. That would be like how evolution was amended and adjusted ever so slightly when genetics was discovered and showed the theory (read: fact) to be true, but through a more complex process than previously understood.
When modern chemistry was realized, alchemy was thrown out the window except by a few fringe groups. That's a sufficiently different theory. They both deal with mixing a bunch of together and heating it up, but they're vastly different ideas. We wouldn't call it Alchemy 2.0. It's a different theory.
People are getting it just fine. He/she either doesn't understand what's being thoroughly explained to them or they're nitpicking at their own apparent lack of understanding of the discrepancy.
And there are infinite examples of illiterate, unindustrialized neanderthals thinking all kinds of crazy , that proves nothing. You realize when people thought the earth was flat or plagues were an act of god, they couldn't observe on the macro and micro scales we can now. Complex mathematics was nonexistent. Never before has knowledge been as widely available as it is now. This has allowed us the tools to develop our understanding of what the holy hell is really going on. Theories developed today have had the opportunity to undergo a lot of scrutiny, and they've stood up to it or adjusted.
What is foolish about accepting what is easily the most thorough and precise explanation of reality over all other known alternatives?
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For something to be exactly the same, NOTHING would be able to change. So if a theory has been tweaked, it is not the exact same theory. It is a new theory that is made up of most components of the one that came before it, but with some new or changed components. It doesn't change the fact that it is a different theory.
Same thing with a ship. You replace a plank with a new and different plank, (you don't change a theory by replacing a component with an identical component); the ship is technically different.
I didn't say it was foolish to accept what is the most precise explanation. I said it would be foolish to make the assumption that it is an infallible explanation. |
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| Meat187 |
| Why are you fools talking bout ships here?! :wtf: :stongue: |
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| srussell0018 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Meat187
Why are you fools talking bout ships here?! :wtf: :stongue: |
PKC started it :p |
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| Meat187 |
| quote: | Originally posted by srussell0018
PKC started it :p |
Ah, ok then. I was afraid it might be something stupid. |
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| EddieZilker |
I'd like to see the ship-building schematics for a vessel which changes its entire structure simply because one of any number of its planks are replaced.
But I don't think that would make it a particularly intelligent design. |
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| Theresa |
| quote: | Originally posted by EddieZilker
I'd like to see the ship-building schematics for a vessel which changes its entire structure simply because one of any number of its planks are replaced.
But I don't think that would make it a particularly intelligent design. |
Who said it changes the entire structure? |
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| srussell0018 |
| quote: | Originally posted by EddieZilker
I'd like to see the ship-building schematics for a vessel which changes its entire structure simply because one of any number of its planks are replaced.
But I don't think that would make it a particularly intelligent design. |
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| D-res |
| quote: | Originally posted by Redd
but it's still a theory
god is the only real truth |
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| quote: | Originally posted by srussell0018
You're completely right, but at the rate technology and science has been advancing recently, it would be perfectly reasonable to believe that we're missing something which we haven't yet discovered, or that there are flaws that the Theory of Relativity doesn't explain correctly. Theories can change, often drastically, so to say the Theory of Relativity (although, again, I agree with it, and realize that it is the most accurate explanation) is an absolute truth is silly. Yes, it is our best explanation right now. No, that doesn't mean it always will be.
That's not foolish at all. And like I've said time and time again, I agree with these theories. I'm merely pointing out the fact that it is possible for these theories to be proven wrong. There's many astrophysicists today, even, that are questioning Einstein's Theory of Relativity. What's the point of science if not to advance? Going by what you're saying, it seems as if you're saying "Oh, well this works best, so there's no real point in trying to find any other possible explanation." |
Indeed, we can all agree that there could be some yet-to-be-discovered unknown. Maybe dark matter and dark energy, which we assume the existence of but can't detect in any tangible way, is just god's fingers pushing around. But if we all concede your point t the extent you want us to, or if we all agree to Redd's "point" then the point of this thread ceases to be. Thead killed. Conversation over. Done. Kaput.
You see? |
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| srussell0018 |
| Well the original point of the thread was certainly not what it is now. Nobody has been arguing for Intelligent Design or saying that god is the only real truth at all. It's just conversation at this point. Well, conversation and then Desiderata repeating everything that PKC says. |
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| Desiderata |
| quote: | Originally posted by srussell0018
And Desiderata, before you chime in with one of your gems, yes, I do understand what that a scientific theory has a different meaning than the normal use of the word "theory." |
Who said the M-Theory didn't work with the Theory of Relativity. You think this is a separate Theory that excludes all other Theories??
You are confused now.
And like PKC said The Theory of Relativity is being used in GPS and other systems here on Earth and they work perfectly according to that Theory. You never answered him about that. |
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| Theresa |
| quote: | Originally posted by Desiderata
Who said the M-Theory didn't work with the Theory of Relativity. You think this is a separate Theory that excludes all other Theories??
You are confused now.
And like PKC said The Theory of Relativity is being used in GPS and other systems here on Earth and they work perfectly according to that Theory. You never answered him about that. |
Stop talking. |
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| srussell0018 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Theresa
Stop talking. |
+1
Like PKC said, like PKC said, like PKC said, like PKC said. |
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