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Intelligent Design Theory (pg. 8)
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| The17sss |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lira
I do, that's why it feels insulting that he seems to dumb himself down like that and I sometimes would rather believes Russell is right. |
depending on one's definition of "dumbing down", pulling in over $20 million/year is not accomplished by stupid people (save professional athletes and lottery winners... lol). |
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| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by The17sss
depending on one's definition of "dumbing down", pulling in over $20 million/year is not accomplished by stupid people (save professional athletes and lottery winners... lol). |
No, I am saying that I'd rather believe he's smart but when he comes up with arguments like "Tide comes in, tide goes out"... it's painful! The guy could definitely come up with better arguments for the existence of a teapot around the sun! |
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| Lews |
| quote: | Originally posted by The17sss
depending on one's definition of "dumbing down", pulling in over $20 million/year is not accomplished by stupid people (save professional athletes and lottery winners... lol). |
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| Lews |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dreyth
I don't care what anyone says but the Qur'an has many amazing things written in it that have stood the test of time and even disproved "science" itself (well by definition that's impossible, which is why I put that in quotes, but what I mean is that there were/are verses in the book that scientists once "disproved" but upon further research or attaining new information they realize their original "proofs" were incorrect). There's also MANY things written in there that people have not know for over a milennium but are finding out within the past hundreds of years or so. Stuff like:
- The mountains extend deep into the earth (they're like ice-bergs in that only their tips are showing)
- The mountains help disperse earthquakes
- Gender is determined from the sperm, not the egg
- The moon actually slightly bobs up and down in its orbit (not known by many, but ok i'll admit that it could have been possible that many Greek scientists could have figured this out back in the day... i'll give you that).
- Milk comes from the cow's blood and excrements
- That the universe is expanding (yeah... imagine people thinking that over 1,000 years ago)
- That the bones in the fetus form BEFORE the flesh does, not at the same time or vice-versa
- That the front of the head (the cerebrum) is responsible for sinful behavior (
- That the chest contracts as you climb higher in altitude.
- Every planet and even the sun moves along in its own orbit (keep in mind over 1,000 years ago most people thought that everything revolved around the earth. MAYBE there were a few at that time that thought the planets revolved around the sun, but the Qur'an takes it one step further to even mention that the sun itself has its own orbit too)
- That even the fetus can laugh in cry while in the womb? (YES, search that up)
I know I may receive a lot of bashing for this, but until someone comes up with a better explanation of how this was written in the Qur'an 1,400 years ago, I'm going to believe in God.
Yes... guessing! That's how they did it! Really? Do you know what the chances are of getting all of these right with none wrong? The list continues by the way, and we are STILL discovering new things... And by wrong, don't point out other things that may seem "morally" wrong, but point out actual scientific errors that we can debate like human adults. |
A lot of those were common knowledge among scientists or not actually in the Qur'an. There are also many things that are scientifically wrong in the Qur'ran.
Is that really why you believe in God? Because an old book had some things in it that were true? That's got to be the worst reason I've ever heard of. |
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| Desiderata |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lira
Good point! |
Bush's nick name was Gin and Tonic and referred to the Skull and Bones as Skull and Boners. |
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| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lews
A lot of those were common knowledge among scientists or not actually in the Qur'an. There are also many things that are scientifically wrong in the Qur'ran.
Is that really why you believe in God? Because an old book had some things in it that were true? That's got to be the worst reason I've ever heard of. |
If the Bible said something about parallel parking, I'd totally believe in God. |
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| The17sss |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lews
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Now, let me make the same argument for Beck from a business standpoint: he has amassed wealth in all forms of media- tv, radio, internet, and books. A dumb person could not possibly be successful on all 4 fronts like that. |
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| EddieZilker |
| quote: | Originally posted by The17sss
Now, let me make the same argument for Beck from a business standpoint: he has amassed wealth in all forms of media- tv, radio, internet, and books. A dumb person could not possibly be successful on all 4 fronts like that. |
But an evil person could be. |
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| The17sss |
| quote: | Originally posted by EddieZilker
But an evil person could be. |
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| Desiderata |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dreyth
- That the universe is expanding (yeah... imagine people thinking that over 1,000 years ago)
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If I am not mistaken there are a few Theories going around now about the Universe at the moment. Some Scientist even say this expanding of the Universe will eventually lead to Galaxies floating so far apart in light years over the next billion of years or so it will cause a tear of all gravitation pull in the fabrics of the Universe and thus leave it empty. I can't quite find the information on this at the moment.
Then I believe there is another Theory in with the Black holes, some Scientist believe Black holes will eventually suck every Galaxy away but with Hawkins Radiation Theory kind of helps debunk that a bit stating that a Black hole only swallows up negation Radiation thus leaving the Positive Radiation circling around the Black hole and as the Positive Neurons/Radiation grow, it will eventualy create another semi Big Bang thus recreating a Galaxy of some sort that will take time to evolve. I also heard of a String Theory that I am not well schooled in.
These are 3 of the Theories I could find at this moment.
There are three main theories :-
1. The Steady State Theory
2. The Big Bang Theory
3. The Pulsating Theory
The Steady Sate theory: It states that the counting of the galaxies in our Universe is constant and new galaxies which are forming continuously are filling the empty spaces which are created by those heavenly bodies which have crossed the boundary lines of observable Universe.
The Pulsating Theory: In this theory it is assumed that there is continuous expansion and contraction in universe. A word which can replace the above definition is ‘Pulsating’.
Pulsating theory states that it is the possibility that after some passage of time the expansion in the universe may stop. Then their may be the possibility of contraction. When this contraction will approaches to a particular size. Again the explosion will take place. As a result of this explosion the expansion of universe will start again.
Hence it results in a pulsating universe in which there is alternate expansion and contraction of universe.
The Big Bang Theory: It states that all the matter of universe was present at a single place in the form of hot and dense fire ball, having a high temperature of nearly 1012K. After the passage of nearly 20 billion years an enormous explosion took place. All the matter which was concentrated at one place scattered into space with rapid speed. This scattering was along all directions. Then this scattered matter took the shapes of galaxies and stars.
According to Hubble’s, the velocity of light and the recession velocities of galaxies become similar at a distance of 20 billion light years. So, it is sure that these heavenly bodies which are present at a distance of more than 20 billion light years can never arrive near us. From the above discussion an observable boundary of the universe is drawn.
If the recession will remain in continuity then large number of heavenly bodies will move away from us. Hence as a result they will be lost one day. So, number of stars and galaxies will reduce continuously and a day will come when we will be surprised to see our empty universe. |
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| EddieZilker |
| quote: | Originally posted by The17sss
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Narcissistic - yeah.
But he's only an 8 on Dr. Michael Stone's scale of evil to Beck's 19.
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