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Intelligent Design Theory (pg. 5)
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| Desiderata |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lira
I find that very hard to do because once you take this seriously, you'll see that you often have to make very difficult choices when "good terms" collide.
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But good terms do collide all the time and based on that people are going to choose like minded people to be their friends (especially as we get older) rather than someone who has good intenttions but personal ideals don't come close to thier own.
I think why I posted that was because it's the little moments in life when that philosohpy comes to good use, like if your neighbor happens to be a creanionlist and you are both happen to be watering your lawn at the same time...
1. Are you simply going to act like they don't exist?
2. Are you going to say Hello?
3. Possible wait and see how they act to you first depending on who has lived in the neighborhood the longest.
(a) What if you have lived their longer?
(b) What if they have lived their longer?
Question 3 will probably be needed to be established first in order to answer question 1 and 2. |
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| Acton |
Just started watching this on Google Video, as the link above doesn't work over here.
Within the first two minutes I heard "Intelligent Design makes people stupid" and I'm hooked already..... will probably report in 2 hours* when it's finished.
*dependant on consumption of alcoholic beverages. |
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| Arbiter |
| Unintelligent design would have been a better theory. |
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| srussell0018 |
| Armin van Buuren created the world 3,000 years ago. It was a world full of rainbows and unicorns, where everyone lived in peace, love, unity, and respect. Then god came in with the dinosaurs, who subsequently ate all the unicorns and introduced the cavemen to house music. you, god :mad: |
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| Lira |
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| quote: | Originally posted by Desiderata
But good terms do collide all the time and based on that people are going to choose like minded people to be their friends (especially as we get older) rather than someone who has good intenttions but personal ideals don't come close to thier own.
I think why I posted that was because it's the little moments in life when that philosohpy comes to good use, like if your neighbor happens to be a creanionlist and you are both happen to be watering your lawn at the same time...
1. Are you simply going to act like they don't exist?
2. Are you going to say Hello? |
Of course! I'd have to be really bigoted to judge a person simply because of a quirk in their religious beliefs that, all else being equal, does not harm anyone.
My best friend in grad school is, oddly enough, a bible literalist. She's already made clear in a conversation that she believes the Tower of Babel really existed and explains the diversity of languages in the world - and I just think it's astonishing that a Master in linguistics never noticed how unlikely (not to say downright impossible and superfluous) the myth is. She doesn't believe in evolution, and is, as far as I know, a creationist. Now, this is a topic that arose - at best - once or twice in our conversations and, as far as I can tell, she's equally astonished by my atheism. Should this affect our friendship? Not at all, though she used to think I was "the good guy" (apparently, that's how I come across to most people) until she realised I didn't act in accordance to the Bible, and I can't tell what her opinion about my system of morality is now (though she's expressed her disagreement a couple of times).
If anything, the reason why most of my friends have Asian ancestry is because they're the least religious ones, and our relationships are therefore much less tense.
| quote: | Originally posted by Desiderata
3. Possible wait and see how they act to you first depending on who has lived in the neighborhood the longest.
(a) What if you have lived their longer?
(b) What if they have lived their longer?
Question 3 will probably be needed to be established first in order to answer question 1 and 2. |
I'm not following you here :conf: |
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| igottaknow |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lira
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Of course! I'd have to be really bigoted to judge a person simply because of a quirk in their religious beliefs that, all else being equal, does not harm anyone.
My best friend in grad school is, oddly enough, a bible literalist. She's already made clear in a conversation that she believes the Tower of Babel really existed and explains the diversity of languages in the world - and I just think it's astonishing that a Master in linguistics never noticed how unlikely (not to say downright impossible and superfluous) the myth is. She doesn't believe in evolution, and is, as far as I know, a creationist. Now, this is a topic that arose - at best - once or twice in our conversations and, as far as I can tell, she's equally astonished by my atheism. Should this affect our friendship? Not at all, though she used to think I was "the good guy" (apparently, that's how I come across to most people) until she realised I didn't act in accordance to the Bible, and I can't tell what her opinion about my system of morality is now (though she's expressed her disagreement a couple of times). |
You could try to comfort her by explaining that as evil as your beliefs must seem to her you can't be the devil because your an Atheist. But then again she might not understand the joke. |
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| Desiderata |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lira
:stongue:
Of course! I'd have to be really bigoted to judge a person simply because of a quirk in their religious beliefs that, all else being equal, does not harm anyone.
My best friend in grad school is, oddly enough, a bible literalist. She's already made clear in a conversation that she believes the Tower of Babel really existed and explains the diversity of languages in the world - and I just think it's astonishing that a Master in linguistics never noticed how unlikely (not to say downright impossible and superfluous) the myth is. She doesn't believe in evolution, and is, as far as I know, a creationist. Now, this is a topic that arose - at best - once or twice in our conversations and, as far as I can tell, she's equally astonished by my atheism. Should this affect our friendship? Not at all, though she used to think I was "the good guy" (apparently, that's how I come across to most people) until she realised I didn't act in accordance to the Bible, and I can't tell what her opinion about my system of morality is now (though she's expressed her disagreement a couple of times).
If anything, the reason why most of my friends have Asian ancestry is because they're the least religious ones, and our relationships are therefore much less tense.
I'm not following you here :conf: |
It's a ideal on how you might treat someone...
For example: If you are new to the neighbored more then likely you will wait for someone to greet you where as if you have lived there longer than the neighbor, more than likely you might do the greeting first.
I posted that just for the fact on how quick some people on here act.
So, I thought a more real world question might be needed to be asked but everyone in real life has a basic moral code and this is just the internet so I messed that up.
But saying you all creationist should be thrown in Kentucky. That's like saying all gays should be forced to San Francisco and all blacks forced to Louisiana and no where else.
People might argue being black or gay (or both) is something that can't be helped but Creationism can be helped? A big part of Religious views are cultural/tradition. Not everyone can break away from family views like some of us can. And my mom works at a church and living where I live, is 80% all Hispanic and they are overly Religious here and they are the majority in this city.
And, I guess I'm just playing soap box moral code here because even I am an Atheist and sometimes Agnostic. |
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| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by igottaknow
You could try to comfort her by explaining that as evil as your beliefs must seem to her you can't be the devil because your an Atheist. But then again she might not understand the joke. |
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Actually, she reckons I'm a good atheist. However, what seems to irk her a bit is that instead of being a lawful secular saint she apparently took me to be when we met, I abide by a rather different set of rules (i.e. I couldn't care less about what the Bible says if I believe it isn't a good rule). |
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| Desiderata |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lira
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Actually, she reckons I'm a good atheist. However, what seems to irk her a bit is that instead of being a lawful secular saint she apparently took me to be when we met, I abide by a rather different set of rules (i.e. I couldn't care less about what the Bible says if I believe it isn't a good rule). |
But do ya'll hang out on a regular basis?
So for instance you are using: As far as possible with out surender, be on good terms with all persons.
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| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by Desiderata
But do ya'll hang out on a regular basis? |
She's now finishing her dissertation so we can't hang out as much as we used to, but we usually see each other once or twice a week.
| quote: | Originally posted by Desiderata
So for instance you are using: As far as possible with out surender, be on good terms with all persons. |
I don't see why you'd not be on good terms with everyone unless they threaten you or something :conf: |
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| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by Desiderata
For example: If you are new to the neighbored more then likely you will wait for someone to greet you where as if you have lived there longer than the neighbor, more than likely you might do the greeting first. |
I never thought about this before, I greet my neighbours whether or not they greet me first.
| quote: | Originally posted by Desiderata
But saying you all creationist should be thrown in Kentucky. That's like saying all gays should be forced to San Francisco and all blacks forced to Louisiana and no where else. |
I'm not saying they all should be thrown in Kentucky... but, if they all decide to gather there, I'm not going to stop them. |
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| EddieZilker |
| quote: | Originally posted by Acton
Just started watching this on Google Video, as the link above doesn't work over here.
Within the first two minutes I heard "Intelligent Design makes people stupid" and I'm hooked already..... will probably report in 2 hours* when it's finished.
*dependant on consumption of alcoholic beverages. |
I've seen it three times, myself. The ending is killer. For all their ambition at constructing a logical arg...
Oh, wait. I don't want to spoil it for you. |
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