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Osama Bin Laden Is Dead (pg. 39)
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| ziptnf |
| Your CT senses were tingling. |
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| ziptnf |
| quote: | Hollywood mulls film version of bin Laden killing
By Michael Thurston (AFP) – 5 hours ago
LOS ANGELES — It is only a matter of time before Osama bin Laden's killing by crack US forces is made into a Hollywood film -- and one Oscar-winning director could be ahead of the game, reports said.
Kathryn Bigelow, who won an Academy Award in 2010 for "The Hurt Locker," was already working on a movie about the Al-Qaeda leader's death -- which she could still re-think after Sunday's covert operation in Pakistan.
According to the Hollywood Reporter, Bigelow has already been discussing a project provisionally entitled "Kill Bin Laden," based on a previous botched attempt to get the Al-Qaeda chief.
She and her screenwriting collaborator Mark Boal -- who worked with Bigelow on Iraq war drama "The Hurt Locker" -- have been meeting with actors for the action thriller project, when Sunday's shock development occurred.
"But now that Bin Laden has been killed, what happens to the Kill Bin Laden project?" it said, adding that the original project was based "on a failed Black Ops mission by the US military to capture the Al-Qaeda leader."
There is a long history of movies based on real events, from "JFK" to "Titanic," or more recently "United 93" about the heroism of passengers who prevented a fourth plane from hitting its mark on 9/11.
Bin Laden's actual death could definitely help the Bigelow project, especially since it is in the relatively early planning stages, said the industry daily.
"We can't imagine the events surrounding the killing not being incorporated into the script in some fashion," it added.
At the same time there is a risk that Bigelow could lose interest, it added, "especially given all the other Bin Laden projects that will likely be fast-tracked to capitalize on the intense worldwide interest in this subject.
Rival daily Variety meanwhile said that Boal's untitled script about the US operatives hunting bin Laden centers on the very team that wound up killing the Al Qaeda leader.
Sources close to Boal told Variety that he is still working on the script, and will definitely include the 40-minute fire-fight at the compound in Pakistan where bin Laden was found and shot to death Sunday.
"For him, the timing of bin Laden's death could hardly be better: Had it come much later, making changes would've been a scramble, but it's still late enough to maximize the movie's timeliness," it said.
The Hollywood Reporter said its sources said Bigelow and Boal -- who could use his contacts as a former journalist to find out more details of Sunday's operation -- will spend this week figuring out their next move.
"The next few weeks will likely see a ton of new Bin Laden projects, especially as the details of the US mission to kill him become known," it added.
Bigelow has built her career via movies notable for their macho characters, whether it's bank-robbing surfers in "Point Break" to adrenaline-addicted bomb squads in "The Hurt Locker."
She became the first woman to win the best director Oscar last year for "The Hurt Locker," a nerve-jangling movie about a US Army bomb disposal squad in Baghdad.
The low-budget drama, based on a screenplay by Boal after he was embedded with a bomb squad in 2004, beat $500 million sci-fi epic "Avatar," directed by her ex-husband James Cameron, at the 2010 Academy Awards. |
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, already? Jesus, the man died yesterday. |
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| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJRYAN™
You can replace one redundant letter with only one letter missing, which is the b. |
Just because you can, it doesn't mean you should.
(I'm still writing your reply, Jordan) |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by ziptnf
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, already? Jesus, the man died yesterday. |
Uh, they were already well beyond the drawing board stage by the time osama was actually face raped by seals. |
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| VAR |
| quote: | Originally posted by ziptnf
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, already? Muhammad, the man died days ago. |
fixeded |
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| EgosXII |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lira
(I'm still writing your reply, Jordan) |
:nervous: :nervous:
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| yukii |
 LOL |
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| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by EgosXII
1: You and I are not politicians. We don't know wtf is going on in politics (allegiances, backroom meetings, etc). That's totally fine, but what this means is that you don't know, and neither do I, but you are basing your beliefs about politics on an entirely erroneus assumption (who knows what it is... most likely that liberal politicians follow the liberal agenda, help people etc). The Skeptic is generally more likely to require solid proofs before defining his or her beliefs, therefore basing beliefs on solid grounds. |
Indeed, but this would require such an epic conspiracy that, albeit possible, is really infeasible. Besides...
| quote: | How did U.S. confirm the body was bin Laden's?
(CNN) -- It took mere hours to confirm that the person killed in a compound near Pakistan's capital was Osama bin Laden.
How did officials know that the man who was shot in the head Sunday was really the world's most wanted terrorist?
DNA, among other things, senior officials told CNN.
Officials compared the DNA of the person killed at the Abbottabad compound with the bin Laden "family DNA" to determine that the 9/11 mastermind had in fact been killed, a senior administration official said.
It was not clear how many different family members' samples were compared or whose DNA was used.
During a press briefing Monday afternoon, John Brennan, President Barack Obama's adviser on homeland security and counterterrorism said they had "preliminary DNA intelligence" ahead of the strike.
Among the five killed in the compound, one of them was one of bin Laden's adult sons, officials said.
Also to identify bin Laden, a visual ID was made. There were photo comparisons and other facial recognition used to identify him, the official said. A second official said that in addition to DNA, there was full biometric analysis of facial and body features.
Dr. Victor Weedn, a forensic pathologist who helped pioneer the military's DNA identification program,said it's likely that the military would have samples for high-profile terrorists like bin Laden.
"The U.S. government would have an interest in looking for samples of DNA wherever they might find it, whether from family members or places he might have been, and store those samples," he said.
Essentially, scientists take DNA from the person's body, and compare it to another source like a sample collected from the individual at a previous time, or the DNA of a close family member.
DNA samples can be obtained from a multitude of sources, including discarded chewing gum, a toothbrush, a half eaten sandwich and even an envelope the person may have licked to seal, for example.
To confirm bin Laden's identity, officials probably used several methods, said Michael D. Kirkpatrick, a retired senior FBI assistant director who had worked in creating a biometric database of terrorist identities. He was not involved in the bin Laden case and spoke generally about the identification process.
"I'm sure in this particular instance, given the magnitude of the individual involved and the likelihood of international scrutiny and doubt on the part of some people around the world, that they would err to the extreme -- to over-identify him," he said.
"This is something you really can't make a mistake. You have the president announcing to the world it happened. Effectively, they would look at all these [biometrics] and make a decision. "
DNA
DNA is the most reliable measure, experts said.
This can be collected through a cheek swab, blood, hair, fingernail, or even saliva from a cigarette.
According to the U.S. Human Genome Project -- which helped to identify the more than 20,000 genes in human DNA -- forensic experts use DNA to distinguish a person's genetic footprint, by looking for matches from a sequence of small, repeating markers at different locations on the person's genome.
Each of us has a unique genetic fingerprint, even though only one-tenth of 1 percent of the 3 million DNA bases differs from one person to the next.
Using family DNA to compare with a person "would be pretty darn accurate," said Kirkpatrick.
This would work much like a paternity test proving genetic relations, said Max Houck, a former FBI supervisory physical scientist.
Computer software and human DNA analysts could read the data to make the confirmation.
The FBI's forensic system relies on 13 DNA regions that vary for each individual and use that data to create a genetic profile of that individual. It's unclear if this is the method intelligence officials used to identify bin Laden's body.
Facial recognition
Facial recognition software programs compare photographs of the person.
Such programs take the topology of the face and essentially read the features, where the person's eyes, nose, lips are located, their proportions and measurements. The facial recognition programs map the geometry of a person's face and can compare images.
They identify points of reference on the face and read whether it's the same person, said biometrics experts.
Facial recognition can also work compare facial features, the shape of the skeletal structure, moles, scars and other skin marks.
A visual ID
Bin Laden would've stood out to the trained U.S. military team who entered his compound.
"He's a distinctive person, for that part of the world," Kirkpatrick said. "He's 6-feet, 4-inches. He's gaunt. There are plenty of photographs of him."
Matching features like bin Laden's height would've helped.
Body features
A full biometric analysis could mean wide variety of things including fingerprints, palm prints, DNA analysis, iris scans, said Houck.
It's unclear exactly what type of identification tools officials used in this category to determine bin Laden.
Some methods also use hand geometry, looking at photos to see the width of palms, the physical features of their hands or even the vein patterns to confirm a person's identity, said Houck, who examined remains after the 1993 fire in the Davidian compound in Waco, Texas, and also worked to identify 9/11 victims during his career with the FBI. |
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Finding out the "truth" in this case would definitely give journalists a Pullitzer prize or something. Isn't it strange that everyone, even the media, is "playing along"?
| quote: | Originally posted by EgosXII
2: You're conjectures are not based on any fact at all, but a belief based on a gloss of interpretations... Would US politics benefit more from having a common success, or from one party gaining a lie that they can use to oust the other? there's no one answer. There are thousands of people talking about millions of things, all of which we are seperated from by a billion layers of ambiguity. We're not now, and never have been in a meeting where they talk about , and even if we were, government decisions aren't made in a bubble, or by one person/group. **** |
I don't quite understand what you said after the question. Are you talking about how fallible speakers are?
| quote: | Originally posted by EgosXII
3. Claims are never baseless... Rationally defining choices/options is based on some belief about the past (why would political rivals that would do anything they can to oust Obama suddenly praise his actions?- What makes you think that's a better option than shutting their mouth and soaking up some national pride?)... You're here making MORE claims to back up your original claim which remains undefended...
Either way, domesticated never made a CLAIM! he never said it was a cover up that everybody was going along with, he said where's the proof? |
There's the pic all around the internet already. I wouldn't say it looks chopped :p |
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| shaw |
| quote: | Originally posted by yukii
LOL |
Here's a couple of things America got right: gifs and freedom. Sorry about the cars. |
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| srussell0018 |
| I'm just really happy that Osama's killing was in the manner that it was. A in' double tap in the head and one in the chest for good measure. Sure beats a missile flattening his house from an unmanned drone. Can you imagine how amped up those SEALS were on the helicopter ride in? Damn. |
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| WittyHandle |
| I'm still impressed that according to that pic Jester put up, facial recognition software was used to ID him from an image taken from a satellite which led to his location. Pretty amazing if you ask me. |
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| pyro264jb |
God bless America
Dont mess with Team Six  Link
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