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Osama Bin Laden Is Dead (pg. 51)
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| srussell0018 |
| quote: | Originally posted by _Ocean_Drive_
One thing is really bugging me.
I really think the celebrations are way over the top.
Whilst I shed no tears that he is deceased, I cannot help but feel that a war crimes trial was the way to go. It's what the West prides itself on; jury of your peers, due process, right to a fair trial etc. which is why Guantanamo also has sticking points for me, also.
Maybe America just didn't want to bring up its involvement with him all over again.
Heck, we even had trials for Nazi war criminals...
Just dunno what to think about all this. |
There's no doubt in my mind that he was at the very least armed, and most likely firing on the SEALs as they entered. You don't just not hear 3 Blackhawk helicopters hovering over your house. No way he was going to surrender or get taken alive. |
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| _Ocean_Drive_ |
| quote: | When my husband was killed on the morning of 9/11, television stations around the world ran split-screen video. They showed the buildings still burning juxtaposed against young Arabs celebrating in the streets. That disturbing vision left me incredulous; it was forever emblazoned on my psyche.
Ten years later, now fully awake in the bright sunlight of the day, when I contemplate the definition of victory for our country when it comes to the death of Osama bin Laden, I can only think about the damage that has been done.
I think about the thousands of lives lost -- American, Afghani, Iraqi. I know firsthand the sorrow those families have felt. I ponder how the billions -- maybe trillions -- of dollars could have been better spent. I remain alarmed about the continued expansion of absolute Executive power in the name of fighting this seemingly ongoing and never-ending "war on terror." I worry about the further erosion of our constitutional rights. I wonder when our troops will ever be called home. I know all too well, that thousands of young American men and women soldiers will never have the opportunity to return home. And of course, I fear reprisal.
But more than anything, I cannot seem to remove the optics of the giddy, gleeful throngs of Americans who took to the streets celebrating in the early morning hours.
Forgive me, but I don't want to watch uncorked champagne spill onto hallowed ground where thousands were murdered in cold blood.
And I don't want to see any ugly blood stained sheets as proof of death or justice.
Nor do I want to think about bullet-ridden corpses being dumped into the sea.
And it breaks my heart to witness young Americans cheer any death -- even the death of a horrible, evil, murderous person -- like it is some raucous tailgate party on a college campus.
Why are we not somber?
Where is the deeper, more meaningful reflection?
Haven't we learned any lessons in ten years? Paid any attention along the way? Gained any valuable wisdom? Are we really better off?
Can it ever be a true victory when so many don't even seem to comprehend the magnitude of what has been lost along the way? Or even what the future might hold?
Was it all worth it?
As my phone rings and the media looks toward me to give them their trite, warm soundbite of closure and elation, I have to be honest, today is not a day of celebration for me. |
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/krist...l_b_856535.html |
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| [N]ûk|êû[Z] |
tbh that woman [i assume its a ing woman] must have some sort of deep rooted issue, which is understandable in a way.
but the fact that evil cvnt is [apparently] dead, is a momentous thing, and hopefully the start of other nasty fvckers meeting their demise.
that woman can sob her heart out all she wants and dream of kids skipping down the street, while other brainwashed turban wearing saddo's are dreaming of other ways to kill lots of people, just for the sake of it. |
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| DJ Itchy Tits |
| if he wasn't armed or put up much resistance why kill him? |
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| [N]ûk|êû[Z] |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ Itchy
if he wasn't armed or put up much resistance why kill him? |
he was using one of his wifes as a human shield apparently |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| To be fair I’d be surprised if 1 in 10 people in this thread knew who he was before 911 (this is just an excuse to state that I identified OBL as the architect of 911 within 30 seconds of live feed from new york arriving on my tv. Its good being right all the time). |
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| The17sss |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
To be fair I’d be surprised if 1 in 10 people in this thread knew who he was before 911 (this is just an excuse to state that I identified OBL as the architect of 911 within 30 seconds of live feed from new york arriving on my tv. Its good being right all the time). |
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| aNYthing |
Hoooolllly ! Motherload of Herp Derp, enough to fill every nook and cranny of this ed planet... Hell, I've seen plenty of retards, many on these here forums... yet, that one takes the ing mother of all cakes, within even a bigger cake, and that one is in an Earth-sized cake... and shoves it up his ass.
wow. |
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| Joss Weatherby |
Well if it weren't for conservatives bitching about kids being taught recent history (read post WWII as recent) all the time because its "too controversial" maybe those kids would have learned about it in Elementary school instead of constantly being taught about the period from the revolution to the civil war.
even reconstruction to the end of the first world war is hardly covered in school.
Yep, if people learned recent US history as children we'd have no conservatives. |
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| Halcyon+On+On |
| So you're saying that school is an important part in shaping who people grow up to be, is that right? |
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| Joss Weatherby |
| quote: | Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
So you're saying that school is an important part in shaping who people grow up to be, is that right? |
It depends on the person obviously, but for most people school is fundamental in shaping a persons beliefs because it gives them the basis on which to establish their own views. |
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