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Osama Bin Laden Is Dead (pg. 55)
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| chlola |
"I mourn the loss of thousands of precious lives, but I will not rejoice in the death of one, not even an enemy, returning hate for hate multiplies hate, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that."
- Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.- |
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| The17sss |
| quote: | Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
Everything that is covered in history books is either up to the end of World War I or II. After that its a brief pass over of the last 50-70 years and a chapter on the present day, when I was a kid that was of course Bill Clinton if the books were new enough, and Bush or even Reagan if the books were older, but even then details were sparse, no current events, nothing of any sort of real value. Most of the time teachers didn't even make it to that part of the book by the end of the year. The most influential part of our history on the current day is glossed over.
Hell, we had a world issues class and most of that was rather pointless and didn't cover anything in detail, nor anything in the last 25 years. |
This is why you should go to college, if you really want to learn about history. Our public education system is a joke. I went to a private high school and got a lot more history study than what seems to be going on in public schools. |
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| Joss Weatherby |
| quote: | Originally posted by The17sss
This is why you should go to college, if you really want to learn about history. Our public education system is a joke. I went to a private high school and got a lot more history study than what seems to be going on in public schools. |
So people should only be educated if they can afford it?
That makes sense to you?
Oh yea... It does. :( |
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| chlola |
Breaking news... He was not armed and he did not use his wife as a human shield.
... But we killed him anyway, even though he did not resist.
:nervous: :nervous: :nervous: :nervous: :nervous: :nervous: :nervous: :nervous: :nervous: :nervous: :nervous: :nervous: |
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| The17sss |
| quote: | Originally posted by chlola
Any retaliations or threats yet? |
To answer your question, yes:
| quote: | J'lem imam: Obama will soon hang
Al-Aqsa Mosque imam vows to avenge killing of Osama bin Laden in Youtube video. 'Dogs should not rejoice too much for killing lions'
JERUSALEM- An imam from the Al-Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem vowed to take revenge over "the western dogs" for killing Al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden in Pakistan on Sunday.
In a Youtube video uploaded by the imam he said: "The western dogs are rejoicing after killing one of our Islamic lions. From Al-Aqsa Mosque, where the future caliphate will originate with the help of God, we say to them – the dogs will not rejoice too much for killing the lions. The dogs will remain dogs and the lion, even if he is dead, will remain a lion."
The imam then verbally attacked US President Barack Obama saying: "You personally instructed to kill Muslims. You should know that soon you'll hang together with Bush Junior."
"We are a nation of billions, a good nation. We'll teach you about politics and military ways very soon, with god's help," he vowed. |
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,...4064183,00.html
the video of his call to hang Obama is embedded in the link if you want to watch, but it's in Arabic. |
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| saluyamo |
| quote: | Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
I want to see your sources on that.
Also, even if thats true, it still reflects what the problem is.
Everything that is covered in history books is either up to the end of World War I or II. After that its a brief pass over of the last 50-70 years and a chapter on the present day, when I was a kid that was of course Bill Clinton if the books were new enough, and Bush or even Reagan if the books were older, but even then details were sparse, no current events, nothing of any sort of real value. Most of the time teachers didn't even make it to that part of the book by the end of the year. The most influential part of our history on the current day is glossed over.
Hell, we had a world issues class and most of that was rather pointless and didn't cover anything in detail, nor anything in the last 25 years. |
Sounds a lot like my High school |
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| Joss Weatherby |
| quote: | Originally posted by chlola
Breaking news... He was not armed and he did not use his wife as a human shield. But we killed him anyway, even though he did not resist.
:nervous: :nervous: :nervous: :nervous: :nervous: :nervous: :nervous: :nervous: |
It was a hit. Live with it, its how war works.
We do this every week with RPV attacks (drones), I know a number of the people that do them, quite well actually, one of them recently moved from flying them to teaching others in the USAF to fly them.
I read or heard a good quote about how hits like this are actually a progression in warfare. Instead of waging war against an entire country (this time Pakistan) we can go in an surgically remove who we need to and usually do it pretty well.
There is no doubt in my mind that this would have worked in Iraq. Why we need hundreds of thousands of boots on the ground is beyond me when the nations we are fighting are as a whole not raising arms against us. |
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| Paradox Lost |
The full AP article here (and cut up a bit down below):
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110504...us/us_bin_laden
| quote: | WASHINGTON – Osama bin Laden was unarmed when Navy SEALs burst into his room and shot him to death, the White House said Tuesday, a change in the official account that raised questions about whether the U.S. ever planned to capture the terrorist leader alive.
Asked about the final confrontation with bin Laden, Panetta said: "I don't think he had a lot of time to say anything." The CIA chief told PBS NewsHour, "It was a firefight going up that compound. ... I think it - this was all split-second action on the part of the SEALs." Panetta said that bin Laden made "some threatening moves that were made that clearly represented a clear threat to our guys. And that's the reason they fired." The SEALs were back in the U.S. at Andrews Air Force Base outside Washington for debriefing on the raid, lawmakers said after meeting with Panetta.
"And obviously, under the rules of engagement, if he had in fact thrown up his hands, surrendered and didn't appear to be representing any kind of threat, then they were to capture him. But they had full authority to kill him." For the long-term legacy of the most successful counterterrorism operation in U.S. history, the fact that bin Laden was unarmed is unlikely to matter much to the Americans he declared war against. President George W. Bush famously said he wanted bin Laden "dead or alive," and the CIA's top counterterrorism official once promised to bring bin Laden's head back on a stake. Yet just 24 hours before the White House acknowledged that bin Laden had been unarmed, Obama's chief counterterrorism adviser, John Brennan, said: "If we had the opportunity to take bin Laden alive, if he didn't present any threat, the individuals involved were able and prepared to do that." |
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| Joss Weatherby |
Did he realize that those edicts have already been made in the US by pretty much every white person south of the Mason-Dixon? |
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| chlola |
Is getting shot point blank in the head called a drone?
So is there a hit out on George W for his idiotic war?
aka: WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION?
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| Paradox Lost |
| quote: | Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
It was a hit. Live with it, its how war works. |
According to White House press announcements, U.S. special forces would have taken him into custody if it were possible, so he wasn't necessarily marked for death, despite full awareness on all parties involved that it was a likely possibility that it would come to that. |
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| jupiterone |
FUUUUUCKKKKKK |
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