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Sex, Death And The Meaning Of Life (pg. 9)
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| Dj Nacht |
| quote: | Originally posted by Vivid Boy
actually thats a lie. deep down i hope something happens. Not because of my self importance or because I look forward to playing Jesus in a game of NFL Blitz '01 its because I don't like the thought of losing my loved ones forever. And thats probably everyones excuse as to why they believe in something.
But at the end of the day...as much as I hope my faith is right and yours is wrong, we won't know until that day. That's why I hate discussing it. No matter how close we think we are to understanding it we're still lifetimes away from fully truly understanding everything and to jump to conclusions without the facts present to me is retarded for both sides. |
Yes, I do too hope that we somehow survive death. Here is something you might find interesting. It's from the epilogue of a book I've read.
Epilogue:
Granted, I would have preferred that my research yielded proof
of a God, proof that there existed some transcendental realm
through which “I,” my conscious self, would have persisted forever.
Sure, I would have preferred eternal existence over inevitable
death. Or would I? Imagine the ramifications of immortality, of
knowing that there will never be a moment’s rest or respite from
eternal existence.
Besides, amid eternity, what goals or motivations could one have?
How relevant would anything be? Eventually, hours, years, eons
would all blur together, rendering existence an endeavor in obscurity.
It would be like being in a race with no finish—no winners, no losers,
no anything…just existence for existence’s sake. Under such conditions,
what would prevent one from losing interest, from slowing
down, from no longer pushing oneself to achieve? In such a light,
what would achievement even mean? Perhaps it’s better this way, better
to burn quick and bright than forever dim. Perhaps without death,
life would intrinsically lack luster and meaning. Perhaps so, perhaps
not. Perhaps I’m simply trying to rationalize the subconscious fear of
my inevitable demise.
So where to now? Knowing that I’m destined to grow old and
infirm and eventually die, that I’m to lose everything I ever had or
loved, including my own self, why, I sometimes ask, bother to continue
living? Why, in a godless universe, should I continue to push
this burdenous rock of Sisyphus just one more day? Why not just get
it over with and kill myself right here and now? Though during some
of the more distressing times in my life, I may sometimes toy with
such ideas, I console myself with the realization that if there really is
no spiritual realm, no soul, and no afterlife, then I’ll have all eternity
to not exist, to not have to endure the vagaries of capricious reality.
With this in mind, why not make the most of this fleeting experience
called life while it’s still available to me? Even if I were to procure
just one more moment of genuine happiness that would still be one
more than nothing.
Perhaps the mere fact that we are cognizant of anything at all is
reason enough to celebrate life. How many other combinations of
matter can do what we can? What other molecular entity possesses
the capacity to laugh; to love; to ponder its own existence; to appreciate
works of music, art, literature; to aspire, to hope, to dream?
Even if it should turn out that we are just spiritless atoms cavorting in the void, we are still matter’s paramount form, the height of its complexity, its crème de la crème—nature’s chosen macromolecules.
Besides, even if it should turn out that what we call happiness is
nothing more than the manifestation of strictly physiological
processes, do we experience it any less? Whether I’m mortal or
immortal, a spiritual entity or a spiritless organic machine, are these
not my experiences? Either way, am I any less me? Moreover, the
mere fact that I can never know what each next moment will bring
means that, as mechanical as life might be, mine remains a wondrous
and beautiful mystery. |
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| Vivid Boy |
| it. its got to be aliens |
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| Nrg2Nfinit |
dont get your hopes up
expect` nothing and somethign would be a surprise.
we are pretty sure life can come from inorganic matter
look up abiogenisis.
The problem with religion is that it is outdated.. to believe in somethign more than what's tangible is different than following an organized religion called mary poppins. |
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| Znack |
| quote: | Originally posted by Vivid Boy
people are doing it in here right now lol. You don't see one catholic muslim or jew in here preaching the word of their god but you do see a bunch of atheists in here preaching the out of their belief system. |
I frequently use other skeptical and technical forums and i have never experienced atheists unsolicited saying they are atheists. Unless of course it is relevant to the topic.
There are dozens of religious people on atheist forums, and that's good, because otherwise the discussions quickly become monotonous.
Or is your problem maybe that you don't like to have your way of thinking challenged? |
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| de+ |
| quote: | Originally posted by Vivid Boy
people are doing it in here right now lol. |
You are absolutely right.
We atheists throw various spam-mails and advertisements on the Internet to lure believers or self-proclaimed agnostic to visit this forum so we can preach the lack of faith to them. We do this because it is prescribed by our lack of doctrine and dogma that we must convert as many individuals as possible.
It's clearly our desire for Web-sermon preaching that is responsible for you finding your way to this thread. |
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| srussell0018 |
| quote: | Originally posted by itsamemario
blahblahblah i have way too much time to dig up completely irrelevant articles to try and fool people into thinking i'm right |
| quote: | "Lapsed Catholic" and "ex-Catholic"
According to Catholic belief, baptism "seals the Christian with the indelible spiritual mark of belonging to Christ. No sin can erase this mark, even if sin prevents Baptism from bearing the fruits of salvation."[3] A "lapsed Catholic" who has stopped practicing the faith (going to Mass or confession or carry out other practices of Catholicism) is not necessarily an "ex-Catholic." Catholics who have merely ceased to practice the Catholic religion need only return to its practice, without having to go through any special rite of "readmission" to the Church. Some may freely choose go through the Rite of Christian Initiation for Adults (RCIA) for a refresher education in the faith. |
You sir, are a ing moron. Since he identifies as a Catholic, but no longer practices, he would be a.....? Come on, I know you can do it. Try reading it slowly. |
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| itsamemario |
And you're a fat ing fatty with fat, ugly friends. I bet your mom's a whore too.
He clearly stated that he opposes many catholic views aka christian truth, which would make him an apostate in the eyes of the church, even though he does not identify himself as such.
Go yourself you ing loser. |
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| srussell0018 |
| lol you're pathetic. Don't get too Downs on yourself though, we all make mistakes. |
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| itsamemario |
| And you are fat. And balding. |
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| srussell0018 |
| It's okay. It's not your fault. Try not to break your F5 key though. |
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| itsamemario |
You seriosly can't come up with something original on your own, do you?
You're "insulting" me by describing my last avatar. Wow. You're so edgy and cool. |
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| srussell0018 |
| Your last avatar has had nothing to do with anything I've said. My you are daft. It seems like your blinding rage is leading you to forget how to speak English. Is one side of your body numb? Is your speech slurred or vision blurring? I'm legitimately concerned. |
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