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Vinyls vs. CDs (pg. 25)
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| subtledreamer |
| quote: | Originally posted by jwear2004
Something to take note of is that I'm pretty sure that some of the songs on the CD are abridged somewhat, so they aren't all quite as DJ friendly as on the record. Also, the vinyl pack is a limited edition with colored vinyls. I'm sure that you can get the Just Be vinyl package normally for closer to $20 or $25. |
jwear has brought up a good point.
i have one thing to add... when it comes to vinyl or cd's... that one that is "better" is simply the one you prefer. both genres have their pro's and con's. while being able to either is great for flexibility, playing only one of the kind does not make you a better/worse DJ. the only thing i am semily againist is playing STRICTLY from a laptop (i understand that at times equipment and other factors are limiting, but nevertheless... it is almost no-brainer work).
cheers. :) |
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| mixx941 |
I have just recently gotten into the whole trance/electronic music thing (about a year ago), and before that I always did my radio stuff with CDJs (Denon DN-2600F and DND-9000). Once I got turned on to vinyl, I got 2 Stanton STR8-100's and I'll never go back.
I wish that I had always been using vinyl. The feel of it, the actual real control of the record, not something digital is amazing. You can actually manipulate it for real, not through some digital thing that can fail on you (frequent "Disc Errors" with my Denons).
My only problem is that I do not have any vinyl stores within hours, except one very small place which deals mostly in old 60's classic LPs, and some modern rap records. When I go to check out their selection, they have maybe 2-3-4 trance/break tracks (which is what I spin), and they're way overpriced ($11.99 for a DJ Fixx record there, when it costs about $6.99 online). Having said that, I still will only use vinyl to mix!
-Mark
P.S. I did a CDJ set yesterday for fun on my DND-9000, it was so wierd after mixing on my Techs for so long. I just need to sell my hip hop vinyls so I can get trance and breaks. :) |
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| Polak |
| quote: | Originally posted by mixx941
I have just recently gotten into the whole trance/electronic music thing (about a year ago), and before that I always did my radio stuff with CDJs (Denon DN-2600F and DND-9000). Once I got turned on to vinyl, I got 2 Stanton STR8-100's and I'll never go back.
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P.S. I did a CDJ set yesterday for fun on my DND-9000, it was so wierd after mixing on my Techs for so long. I just need to sell my hip hop vinyls so I can get trance and breaks. :) |
so which decks do you have, a techs or stantons? |
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| mixx941 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Polak
so which decks do you have, a techs or stantons? |
I had Stanton 100's for a year, then I sold them to a friend and got Technics SL1210M5G's |
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| davepiazza |
I hope this will help you:
I made the mistake when I first decided to dj ( summer 2003) that I would buy cd decks instead of turntables. I later realized that even though cds were cheaper my music/style was suffering. Becuase I was a rookie I didnt know that 98% of trance and house music are released on vinyl first and sometimes only. It was only after I bought my technics that I soon began to deveope and uncover my "style". I'll be honest with you, there are very very few dj friendly trance singles on cd. Unless your willing to get those trance master cds :nervous: or get a mixed cd ( horrible to use to mix with) than you options are limited. Also everyday either at a record store or online new trance music is relased on vinyl. I have not yet seen a place where cd singles are relased and sold in a simialr manner. That said I still have cd deck and still use them. But vinyl is a medium that djs will forever use and will always be apart of dj'ing. It is just a PLUS to have cd decks around for those hard to find singles/super new promos/ or those times when you need to play cheese/rap/etc. for those ty gigs you get and you know that you sure as hell not going to buy the vinyl for that crap.
There is no need for you to get those super cd decks. You will never you that crap anyways. I would get two soild turntables ( technics)and a rack mount dual cd deck ( denon).
So to close..
USe both. Learn to use both. Dont spend tons of $$$ on super cd decks, insted spend it on records and cds. Buy qulaity gear ( technics and denon/pioneer). And stop worrying and just go out there and buy something and start spinning. Like all of us you will learn over time what you like and why. Thats how I did it and others. Learn from your mistakes but always keep learning. |
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| DJDREO |
| Depends on style also. If your a psy DJ then CDS all the way. 99 percent of psytrance is CD. |
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| Exodus17 |
i go both ways, i prefer Vinyl over a cd any day, however there are alot of tracks i have on CD that i havent been able to get on vinyl yet
im a pretty big tranceaddict and i always have my cd player on me since im kindof pathetic that way:D but hey, theres nothing wrong with obsessing over the music:cool:
anyways, back to the point - i prefer vinyl, but this is 2004, you're gonna have a couple tracks on cd... plus if you save up enough $, you can add that snazzy lookin SL-DZ1200 to your set:D
theres still nothing like the feel of your fav track on vinyl:p |
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| DjVash |
| Exodus, I don't know how your DJ skills are, but there's one thing you really need to learn, and that is to see through the hype. The Technics is a hype, and not a very good one. So was the Numark TTX: Also crap. If you want a REAL "snazzy" cd player, Numark CDX all the way (and that's no hype, pity). |
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| DjVash |
| quote: | Originally posted by Nou
I got the standard... (Well in standard I mean Pioneer) the CDJ 800, but I only have a few promo tracks on CD... soo I dont know, might have been and over purchase.
I just started hating FS so much tho... :( |
FS is an interesting technology but it doesn't seem to work that well (especially with ortofon pro's for some reason).
I got the same player, and I just use them for tracks that aren't released (yet) or tracks I can't find (yet) on vinyl. I got really pissed off when I found the tracks that I wanted were backordered, that's why I bought the CD ;) |
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| Trunker |
| quote: | Originally posted by Nell
FACTS:
1) CD's weigh less
this makes them easier to transport and you can carry more with you.
CD's are smaller
same as above, transportation, storage etc.
CD's have a larger capacity
ive got maxi's like rapture with 3 edits and 9 mixes on. how many vinyl would you need to accomodate that?
CD's are cheaper
maxi cd's are £3.50 like the rapture one. to buy all them mixes on vinyl would cost 4-5 times as much as that. cd singles are £3 brand new.
CD's dont wear with play
If you look after your cd's they will last forever. they come in plastic cases, so sleeves dont wear either.
CD's can be written
while all you vinyl lovers paid £100+ for the ayu m e.p. i copied the vinyl to perfect wav, burned the cd and hey, i sold the vinyl for a nice £120, and im still using the CD today :)
CD's can have looping
you can have seamless loping for longer outro's etc to make mixes sounds smoother and fluent.
CD's dont jump, skip
if youve not got bottom of the range equipment, they dont jump.
CD's arnt rice crispies
they dont go snap crackle and pop
CD's are easier to manipulate
any digital source is
CD's are undistinguishable from vinyl
you cant tell the difference when there being played. I bet none of you noticed for the last year tiesto has been playing Voyage, Cafe Del Mar etc etc on CD. YOU CANT TELL!!
CD's are ideal for Trance
trance music dosent require scratching, even if it did, modern digital turn tables can reproduce the sound 100% accurately without actually scratching the platter.
CD's & digital turntable are the begginging of the end for vinyl lovers
CD's can contain ur own tracks
unless you own your own vinyl cutter, only cd's can be easily made.
classic quote from a recent interview....
"What advantages does the CD medium have over traditional vinyl?"
"CD is going to become more dominant on the turntablism side. If you come with two traditional turntables and play, that's great; I respect the skill it takes to be a true vinyl turntablist. But now that you can do 99 percent of that on a CD — plus the seamless looping, flash points, sampling and have all these effects built-in — you'll be coming to the fight with a knife, and I'll be bringing a gun." |
I think that about says it all! Insisting on holding on to old traditions is one of the oldest mistakes in all of human history. "No, you can't do it like that!" "Well why not? It's easier and better, right?" "That's not the point! This is the way we've always done it!" "Isn't that the whole point of learning new things?" |
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| Xilver |
I use both vinyl and CDs, but I like mixing with vinyl better than with CDs (matter of taste, and yes, mixing with vinyl looks 'cooler':))
I tend to buy the good trance releases on vinyl, but when it's a style I don't play as much, like progressive or groove, I buy them on mp3 or wma (beatport, audiojelly, city16, ...) and burn them to CD. |
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| ionized |
haha, yeah that about sums it up. A good 14 points in favour of CDs.
I think the points for vinyl go something like this...
1 You look cooler hence get more action from the laydees...
2 It feels better... but then so does masturbation, so why not just go up there and whack off!?
3 Tracks are more expensive... oh hang on, thats not a bonus...
It really does come down to preference as everyone says. I will happily mix on either and both have their good points. I've started buying more vinyl recently, mainly so I can rip it to digital and play it on my cd decks. This is only an interrim solutions though. Give it another year or two and digital releases will be just as widespread as vinyl, which is the only main drawback to digital at the moment.
I'm just sick of vinyl fundamentalists with thousands of dollars invested in records spreading the opinion that if you dont spin on technics 1200s, that your some kind of wannabe looser. Me think they do protest too much? Get over it, its not what you mix on, its how you mix! |
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