|
Vinyls vs. CDs (pg. 28)
|
View this Thread in Original format
| Teaspoon |
| About the lack of "warmth" of sound when using cds in comparison to vinyl.... why couldn't you just use a filter like the vestax dwg-x1 http://www.joyryderecords.com/vestaxDWGX1.htm and help get this "warmth" back? B.T.W. I am not arguing for one side...I like to use both. |
|
|
| Nemesis44 |
Kinda funny to see this thread still lives...
As I have said, there are arguements for and against both.
Truth be told, there are some cool things happening with CDJs. While the majority of my set is still vinyl based but I love messing around with loops and effects and feel that this is the way forward.
I think the die hard CD haters really should see the other side and have a go at working with it before totally writing it off.
When I bought my first CDJ1000 Mk2 I was surprised by the fact that I ended up burning a lot of my older tracks to CD. Simple reason being that I can still take my older selections with me and not take that much space.
I still like to try and give the crowd a vinyl experience but like to throw in a few creative surprises.
The master pitch function is great for being able to include tracks that are really good but too slow and just sound like the chip monks when speeded up.
Vinyl is still my number one passion but CD's are fast gaining my respect.
I still have an issue with Mp3s burnt to CD as I still see this as a big industry no no.
Cheers
Nem |
|
|
| Chrill |
I have been a CD DJ for about 3 years but i bought a 1210 5 weeks ago to try it out because many talks about the "real feeling". But I don't get the feeling every vinyl DJ talks about. I still like the CD a lot more, it feels like I have more control with CD's.
I don't have any opinion about the time that is remain on the track, don't like the pitch (feels like it's not so precise like a cd player, I must pitch bend a lot more in the mix), don't like the sound (feels like the sound isn't mellow like a cd, sounds bad when mixing from cd to vinyl)
Well, maybe the feeling will come but i have almost lost all my good expectation for vinyl... |
|
|
| DJ Coleman |
Call me crazy, but its all what you want, and what you feel like the DJ said above.
People say this is a big debate its really not! If you think about it most people are going to either swing to what they feel. Most cases its CDs/MP3's, but in my case I did something strange...
I started DJ'ing in late summer this year with Traktor. (Traktor is very great product, at a great low price). After awhile when you start to get good at stuff, and i mean i practiced about 3-4 hours a day on Traktor. It gets kinda boring.
So Christmas i moved to vinyls, I must say why the hell would anyone want to go back to CDs/MP3's. I'll still do live shows with Traktor (sometimes). But mostly now i'm going to be spinnin the tables, because its fun, and you can do neat tricks.
Its mainly the persons decision, some people like CDs/MP3's, others like turntables.
But i have to say one thing, as long as i can Dance to it, and it sounds good, dosn't matter what the hell you use'in.
Also no matter what you use vinyl/cd your still a DJ, thats as long as you mix. If people are dancing to your music, or enjoying it, your a DJ. |
|
|
| Nemesis44 |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ Coleman
If people are dancing to your music, or enjoying it, you're a DJ. |
So true!
You don't even have to mix as long as you are getting the party going in the right direction.
The DJs job is to give people a good time - end of story.
Cheers
Nem |
|
|
| Gunyouken |
| quote: | Originally posted by Nemesis44
So true!
You don't even have to mix as long as you are getting the party going in the right direction.
The DJs job is to give people a good time - end of story.
Cheers
Nem |
I wonder.... One can just as well do it with 2 sessions of winamp going at once then. Why bother with all the equipment? It's not as if 90% of the crowd knows what beat matching is, and/or gives a whether it happens or not, they just want to be happy.
------------------------
There was a post(can't find it) a while ago of someone saying that labels are going to go more for the cd option than vinyls, cause most people don't have turntables. I was wondering why they would do it?? Since most people that don't have turntables are non DJs, why would they want singles of EDM on cd, most non dj people I know like mixed albums, and albums are mixed by DJs, who buy vinyl... So why would labels go the CD route unless it's an album(that was most likely mixed using vinyl?)
------------------------
I am thinking if it isn't maybe possible to design a system that detects heat signature (and maybe brain wave patterns etc.) of a crowd to calculate the mood of the crowd, and mixes music to to inhance that mood, or something like that <--- just random thinking.
-----------------------
3 things that have nothing to do with each other, with a probably out of place quote..... Oh well, such is life.
I like vinyl. |
|
|
| gerrycueto |
I personally like the feel of vynil better... Yes you do actually touch the vynils... when you take them out of the sleeve and put them on the decks... and you need to move them aroudn to find the right starting point and move them fowared or slow them down to keep them on time... :P that's for the (I just use the pitch guy)... You must be really fast with the pitch then because sometimes readjusting the pitch fader may not be enough to get it on time and I have to tap the record (kind of similar to the jog wheel on the CD decks)... at least for me.
but CDs are great too. you can carry them easier... I especially like the fact that you can burn the tracks you make yourself onto a CD and play them and burn tracks your friends made.
I could care less what format the DJ is playing as long as he is doing a good set. Altough, those DJs who just bring a laptop and mix with a PC DJ program at a party are just plain laughable... looks more like a computer geek than a DJ, but if he's playing a good set, I'll like it... I probably just wouldn't give him mad props as the cool DJ that he is... since I don't have much respect for the PC DJs, but if you use PCs in conjuction with your physical DJ system, I think that's cool.
I think it's respect enough that you're playing the person's tune regardless of what format. You're putting that artist out there. A lot of times a label will pay a DJ to play their song (or offer them a bunch of free promo copies) The DJ is the promotional guy. :P You know you'd like a track better if your favorite DJ played it.
If respect is all about money, then a lot of big DJs owe me respect. I haven't seen royalties from a lot of them. Honestly, I don't care. They're giving me respect by putting my tracks out there. That's good enough for me. |
|
|
| gerrycueto |
| quote: | Originally posted by Gunyouken
I am thinking if it isn't maybe possible to design a system that detects heat signature (and maybe brain wave patterns etc.) of a crowd to calculate the mood of the crowd, and mixes music to to inhance that mood, or something like that <--- just random thinking.
-----------------------
|
Wouldn't that take away the challenge of DJing? There'd be no more competition... since a computer can read the crowd. Sounds scary... there could be that technology already out. |
|
|
| Gunyouken |
| quote: | Originally posted by gerrycueto
Wouldn't that take away the challenge of DJing? There'd be no more competition... since a computer can read the crowd. Sounds scary... there could be that technology already out. |
Well since people are saying things like digital media is the way of the future (and it prob is) then chances are good that something like that would happen and the DJ will be gone. But mind you one would probably still need people to study what kind of music suits certain brain patterns and/or heat signatures etc. to inhance or keep a mood going. Cool ! I wonder if I shouldn't make a study of this. |
|
|
| Trancefixed_01 |
| Alright, let me put this as diplomatically as I can. First off, for people who dont even DJ, i suppose you can post on this subject but really, if you don't know what your talking about (and I'm not saying that some of you don't) then don't. Second, for those of us DJ's out there, lets not forget what we're there to do. Entertain, and play great music. If two dudes want to stand on there heads and plug themselves into a mixer, one bucks like a chicken, one makes cow noises, and crossfade between the two, as long as it keeps the crowd happy/dancing, then who are we to really care how they do it? Just because one DJ uses vinyl, and one uses CD's, dosnt make them any less of a DJ. We come, we play, we keep the party goin, as long as we can do that, whichever discs we use, we've got it made...... Anywho, just thought I'd get that out of my system...someone is now probably going to get angry at me for what I've just said, but, such as life. Thats the lovely thing about the internet :P |
|
|
| gerrycueto |
| I like your idea... :P let me plug in my dog and parrot and crossfade between the two :) |
|
|
| Trancefixed_01 |
| Can't wait to hear the results :) |
|
|
|
|
