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Vinyls vs. CDs (pg. 35)
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| varun |
| quote: | Originally posted by Axolotyl
I prefer to mix vinyl because it makes me feel like a man. It also increases the size of my penis and makes it more likely that I will be able to pick up since I look cooler. It also makes me feel like I'm a real DJ because I have to carry around a good 10-15 kilos of records. And I like the fact that I have to spend $15-20 for two or three tracks, usually just a remix of the same song. Plus I get to bag out people who like to use CDs on completely pointless threads by throwing around terms that I very loosely understand. And lets face it, the average clubber would be able to detect (and infact care about) the minute difference in audio quality of a track played on a club PA system. So yeah... CDs suck... |
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| InTranzd |
Lithium, I still don't understand why your label says you can't you digital downloads PURCHASED in DJ mixes? What's the difference between buying a viynl and buying an mp3? You still get cash! Plus your mp3s are like $5, compared to $1-$2 from most other labels.
AND other stores don't have this:
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Can I DJ with files purchased from Beatport?
Yes, buying a track from Beatport is just like buying a record from the record store. The same legal implications are in effect. Beatport has taken the time to create agreements with all labels involved with our site and provide you with digital, legal alternatives to the music you may have purchased on record previously.
No offense, but I don't see how your label will be successful with this strategy. It seems spitefull, because you don't like CDs.
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| InTranzd |
Lithium, I still don't understand why your label says you can't you digital downloads PURCHASED in DJ mixes? What's the difference between buying a viynl and buying an mp3? You still get cash! Plus your mp3s are like $5, compared to $1-$2 from most other labels.
AND other stores don't have this:
For Example:
Can I DJ with files purchased from Beatport?
Yes, buying a track from Beatport is just like buying a record from the record store. The same legal implications are in effect. Beatport has taken the time to create agreements with all labels involved with our site and provide you with digital, legal alternatives to the music you may have purchased on record previously.
No offense, but I don't see how your label will be successful with this strategy. It seems spitefull, because you don't like CDs.
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| InTranzd |
Lithium, I still don't understand why your label says you can't you digital downloads PURCHASED in DJ mixes? What's the difference between buying a viynl and buying an mp3? You still get cash! Plus your mp3s are like $5, compared to $1-$2 from most other labels.
AND other stores don't have this:
For Example:
Can I DJ with files purchased from Beatport?
Yes, buying a track from Beatport is just like buying a record from the record store. The same legal implications are in effect. Beatport has taken the time to create agreements with all labels involved with our site and provide you with digital, legal alternatives to the music you may have purchased on record previously.
No offense, but I don't see how your label will be successful with this strategy. It seems spitefull, because you don't like CDs.
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| Axolotyl |
| FFS, dont get Lithium started again... :nervous: =( |
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| Driguez |
| Vinyl all the way,cd's are ok its just not the same,not as fun as vinyl |
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| DJ MADNESS |
| quote: | Originally posted by 24K
I don't respect DJ's that play cds. Now,,, it's one thing if you're playing your own tracks and what not,,, and also if you just play one or two songs on cd. But when I see DJ's playing only cds it really pisses me off because of how much time,,, money and effort goes into finding rare vinyl. |
Well then I guess you dont respect any of the world's top DJ's then, because most of them use CD's at some point in their sets whether it be for a sample or the song itself. Vinyl is great I learned to DJ on it, but I like CD's just as well. A lot lighter to carry than vinyl also, but as it has been said before this topic has been truly overplayed again and again. Each to their own, CD's however, are here to stay and the DJing technology geared toward them is getting even more impressive. i,e players that is.
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| erdega |
Vinyl Makes A Comeback
| quote: | BELLEVUE - They were dismissed over two decades ago when the Compact Disc became the music format of choice. But actual records are making a comeback.
In the earliest days of recorded music, songs were pressed onto hard discs that really didn't produce a clear sound. The hard discs eventually gave way to a softer vinyl, and that remained a standard for generations.
The advent of the compact disc in the 1980s doomed the vinyl record. But in 2005, they're back!
"The past has returned to the future," says Mike Batt, vinyl buyer for Silver Platters.
"In November of last year, we moved our Bellevue store here to Crossroads," says Silver Platters president Paul Grant. "At that time, we decided to introduce three new lines: Books, games, and vinyl records. And the vinyl has been the most successful."
What? How?
"It's difficult to say, really," Grant answers. But his buyer knows otherwise.
"The only part of the music industry right now that is growing is vinyl," Batt says. "CD sales have gone down, and cassette sales are way down."
And with vinyl sales climbing, sales of related items are growing as well. Today, most major electronics chains carry both turntables and record needles.
Vinyl purists will tell you albums sound better, and they're excited about the return of records. Mike Batt says if you're blindfolded, and you listen to the same song first on CD, then on vinyl, you'll always choose the vinyl recording as the one that sounds better.
But a new generation is fueling vinyl sales as well; a generation that wasn't here the first time records were hits.
It also helps to have popular artists making sure their new projects are also released on vinyl.
"Ben Folds, Dave Matthews, and even U2," Batt says.
So here's the big question: if vinyl is coming back, do you think we'll see the 8-track reborn?
"I don't think so," Grant says with a laugh. He adds cassettes are gone for good as well.
Vinyl selections will continue to grow, and it appears that a new album will actually once again be an album.
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| KB2 |
Whomever feels that one is better- can be right in their own perspectives. A format can be only better to suit your particular needs.... Bottom line.
It all comes down to genre and audience. If you are performing for a wedding or an older crowd that does not want to hear hip hop or dance, than you obiviously don't have a choice. Does not make that person a non dj.
How about salsa, merengue and bachata? If you spin that genre does that make you a non dj cause they are not available on vinyl?
For example, I take buying vinyl over any other format....... why? its not because of the FEEL OF VINYL damn it. Its because the house music that I play does not come out on cds. Alot of tracks may come out on mp3 but the majority can only be found on vinyl....
Guess what, I quickly transfer them to cd.... So, now, I take playing with cds over any other format......
You see how I just threw you a loop.....
Cause nowadays, if you want to compete, YOU HAVE TO HAVE LIVE REMIX, EFFECTS, LOOPING, ACAPPELLA BLENDS, TEMPO BEND, in order for your sets NOT TO BE BORING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ERICK MORILLO, ROGER SANCHEZ-(BEST HOUSE DJ OF 2004) and which both have residencies in Iibza use only cds and use vinyl cause he- Roger "hadn't had the time to transfer them to cd" his own words......
If you win the awards for being the best house dj at a convention held in front of hundreds of your top quality dj peers, and you use cds for most of your sets, what does that say about US, both me and you writing our little pathetic opinions on whether vinyl is better than cd????? It only means that we are not professional enough to embrace evolution.......
The days of playing one track after the next is over........... No one wants to hear track after track after track...... Been there, done that......
I challenge you to buy a pc/desktop with a 1987 memory processor with limited ports and no USB and tell me how you like it.... What happens if your dsl shuts off right now and you can't post your little topics....... What then?
DJing is like anything else in the world- progressing........
BY THE WAY, TO YOU NON PRO DJS- THE STANDARD SET UP AT SUPER CLUBS IS A ROTARY MIXER, TECHNICS, AND CDJ 1000'S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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| Mike123 |
To all the people knocking cds, please take the time to try to get ahold of the April issue of BPM. They have a top 150 list of the readers favorite DJs. They ask each dj which format they prefer, vinyl or cds. It may shock you that WAY more than half of the djs they interveiw prefer cds over vinyl. And even the djs that prefer vinyl say that they do spin cds. And to all you Tiesto fans out there knocking cds, did you watch the Tiesto In Concert 2 dvd? Looked to me like he was spinning way more cds than he was vinyl. Just some food for thought. I'm not trying to start a war. :)
Rock On,
Mike |
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| Axolotyl |
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Cause nowadays, if you want to compete, YOU HAVE TO HAVE LIVE REMIX, EFFECTS, LOOPING, ACAPPELLA BLENDS, TEMPO BEND, in order for your sets NOT TO BE BORING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Playing track after track is over? What masturbation is this?
Bull.
You drop 101 Flangers over your mix, your just going to it up, especially if your mixing trance. Smooth EQing, track selection, timing and solid beat mixing will win over a crowd more than some retard on 12 decks with 3 kaoss pads and an MPC 1000 running Ableton Live. You can do amazing mixing on on any setup regardless or format. Live Remix??? WTF is that? Are you composing in cubase on the fly or something? |
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| KB2 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Axolotyl
WTF is that? Are you composing in cubase on the fly or something? |
Lol....:gsmile: That's funny...
Obviously one has to be more reserved when performing in order not to sound too conjested.
However, one has to be able to alter the systematice routine of track after track. It creates a predictable response.
Playing on back to back long mixes is fine! This will especially do well in your local city lounges an ocassional cafe. No one is arguing that. But when competing with the super club jocks and want to consider yourself a little more marketable among the bigger venues, one needs to be a little more proficient than that of a plain mix cd.
If you are not a trixter, an acappella via pitch bend here and there will suffice. A looping to extend the breakdown of a track to create a new sound is appealing. Even dropping the lows of one track via effector and riding it with a new track is safe yet worth the crowd peeking into the dj booth.
Over all, these are which you can do with ease withva little practice only if you embrace technology and the fact that people need constant change.
Also, depending on the genre, you are limited to the effects that you can impose on the audience. But if you are playing for a club atmosphere which, we all aspire or have at one point, then you need to incorporate substance at one point of your set. Out of the norm, something that which sets you apart.
And the question remains........ why the effector 500 and the cdj 1000 such popular and standard playing machines? |
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