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Keyed tunes for Harmonic mixers (pg. 23)
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brian
quote:
Originally posted by rafale
HEYYY why hasn't anyone been updating the database!?

neways I've just got a new load of tunes gonna key em down n submit em soon.

cheersS


Because nothing new has been submitted to it ;) It sends me an e-mail whenever someone does. Someone sent me some spreadsheets the other day with a bunch of keys, but I fear that the majority of them may have to be input manually. Ah well. Keep submitting though ;)
Kev Boy
Hey guys,
What's happened to the chat? Nobody got any tunes to key or query?
rafale
okays well I've been really busy with work n stuff..These are some of my tunes I've been wanting to key for a while but just dont have the time.. so to any of you kind folks,

...if you're dying for something to key, then maybe u can help me out with these? =)


I'll double check them with u when I have the time to actually sit down n key them.

PVD - Out there and Back
PVD - Pikes
Pulp Victim - The World (Moonman Rmx)
Pulp Victim - The World (Greg Murray Rmx)
Moogwai - Viola (Original)
Moogwai - Viola (AVB rmx)
Marc van Linden - AM2PM
Marc van Linden - Sunrise
MIDOR & 648 - Point Zero
MIDOR & 648 - No Man's Land
Jas Van Houten - Heaven's Gate
Jas Van Houten - Loco Love
Jas Van Houten - err whats this one called?
Active Sight - Out of our lives
Active Sight - Tears of Joy
Disco Bros - First Contact (Regeneration Mix)
Agnelli & Nelson - Everyday 2002 (Alex Gold)
ATN - Miss A Day
Three Drives - Carrera 2 (Nu NRG)
4 Rising Stars - Feelin Me (Phynn Rmx)
4 Rising Stars - Feelin Me (Main Mix)
Mirco De Govia - Voller Sterne (Super 8)
Ridgewalkers feat El - Find (Andy Moor Rmx)
Haak - Frenzy (Original)
Haak - Frenzy (George Hales)
Haak - Frenzy (MKS)
4 Strings - Let it Rain (original)
Dejure - Sanctuary (Original)
Apollo 440 - can't stop the rock (gigolo instrumental)
Altitude - Excession (2001 remake)
Mystery/Tatana - Soulcry
Peran - Good Time
Reeloop - Identification
SuReal - You Take My Breath Away (Tiesto)
SuReal - You Take My Breath Away (Lange)
Eric Prydz - Call on Me (original)
Vone - Dead Cities



CheerS!!
syn
quote:
Originally posted by johnny2003
Filo & Peri - 1999 (Original Mix) Gm->Gm
Filo & Peri - Radiate (Original Mix) Am->Am


Hi, just got this one today and i found both to be major. That's (C) 1999 G and Radiate A. Not sure though, I just started keying my records some weeks ago. It would be great if someone else can confirm this.

Cheers,
qualia
hey everybody!

i wanted to let you know that i've assimilated all the data from this thread and from harmonics.defined.org into mixshare.com's central server, which is accessed via the software rapid evolution... the mixshare server now contains ~33,000 keyed/bpmed tunes, plus other important information!

if you haven't checked out the program already, it will really be a valuable asset to anybody in this thread. not only does it have automatic key/bpm detection (which i agree djs shouldn't rely on!!), it has tools to help manually verify this information, such as a built in midi keyboard and bpm tappers... not only that, it will let you easily view your music to see which songs are in key with each other, so you don't have to remember the details while mixing... best of all, it saves all this essential information for you (such as which songs work well together) so you can refer to it live... and it's free! :-)

to give you an idea, here's a screenshot:



so check it out... at the very least, it's an easy way to share all of this information without having to post or query a web page, as the songs you enter into it are available to every other user... cheers!
brian
quote:
Originally posted by qualia
as the songs you enter into it are available to every other user...


great idea, I just wonder how high of a percentage of those keys are incorrect.
qualia
true, you never know the accuracy... however the app has plenty of tools to manually verify the information. the server is designed to average out multiple values submitted to return the most probable correct information, so as users correct any incorrect info the data will become more and more accurate (in theory, hehe). it would be no less accurate than the exchange of keys anywhere else ;-)
Camelot_Sound
I believe it is somewhat less accurate than information in our database. Software key detection programs seem to provide around 60% accuracy. Our database is over 95% accurate.
qualia
i don't think it's fair to use the automatic detection as the basis of comparison, because the tool actually empowers you to learn and listen for the keys yourself. i agree with camelot in that tunes keyed by trained ears are the best. but it's up to you whether you'd rather pay for this info and be dependent upon someone else or learn it yourself. the automatic detection is nice as a rough estimate until you can get around to keying it by ear, which we all know takes time. what quicker way would there be to accomplish the task of keying music than to share this info collectively?

speaking of which, the mixshare server currently has ~49,000 songs. you can now search the database online as well :-) (although kind of slow at the moment)...
Nemesis44
I have to agree with CS.
Detection tools may open up the world of Harmonics but in truth it has far more value if you actually learn the method yourself. Take time to learn you never know what you may come of it.

Nem

qualia
lol--so we all agree tunes keyed by trained ears are the best. whether you learn to do this yourself or buy the key information from camelot, i still think the program could be useful to you...
Krowster
w00t!
This thread is brilliant!!!!!! I am definitely gonna start harmonic mixing! Tho I have to learn the key notes and all that stuff first. Damn this is hot! I'm @ work right now and since I started reading this thread I couldn't stop, I read through every single post LITERALLY!!!!!
OMTEHG!!!! Thnx a million u guys for ur time, this really helped alot. I really hope this thread stays on and doesn't get deleted any time soon.
I got a request tho, can any1 send me a spreadsheet of keys of trance tunes?I know I'm asking alot but plz plz plz someone send those keys to me.
P.S: Please send them to [email protected]
Thnx again ppl
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