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Keyed tunes for Harmonic mixers (pg. 58)
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qualia
pinokio,

thanks for your support! i enjoy doing what i do, and don't plan to stop ;-) my love for music and for software have found a good match, and it thrills me to think my work is helping out other djs!!

btw, until i add the option to report bad information, can you post or email privately about some of these users with consistently bad information? i will be able to correct the data. as far as spam, seems weird that somebody would do that (i.e. what's their motive?), but key detection isn't easy so i might attribute it to lack of experience on the user's behalf. in any case, it's something that can be easily remedied onced identified.

cheers, and thanks for the feedback!
Benjamin_D
Ok some more ?s, when you have a song that is at 0 pitch and it is in a Cm if you move the pitch up 3% then it would be a half step so now you would be in a Dbm and if you went up to 6% then you would be in a Dm. is this correct or not

saying it started in a 5A then 12A and then a 7A
Cm Dbm Dm
skot_e
My take on it (may be wrong) is that 3A at 6% is 4A
Nemesis44
quote:
Originally posted by Benjamin_D
Ok some more ?s, when you have a song that is at 0 pitch and it is in a Cm if you move the pitch up 3% then it would be a half step so now you would be in a Dbm and if you went up to 6% then you would be in a Dm. is this correct or not

saying it started in a 5A then 12A and then a 7A
Cm Dbm Dm



No guys,
If you have a a track in Cm (5a) and you move the pitch by 3%, it's like you are bending a guitar string. It falls into the middle ground where it will either work with both, 1 or none of them but it doesn't actually become either note. It's halfway beween a Cm (5a) and C#m (12a) (Yes also known as Dbm).
For it to become Dbm (C#m) you would have to be hitting the 6% mark.

Cheers
Nem
Nemesis44
quote:
Originally posted by skot_e
My take on it (may be wrong) is that 3A at 6% is 4A


What you need to do is think like this.
Using the Camelot system you either Add 7 or take 5 to get the one note lift type mix, for example the 6% difference on a 3a becomes a 10a i.e. A#m to Bm.

The 3a to 4a mix works totally differently and is based on compatible musical scales, and ultimately is a bit more abstract. You are basically talking about a note's 4th and 5th.

Cheers
Nem
skot_e
Edit: delete slow post - Ques answered
Benjamin_D
cool let me try to reword this. i have a song that plays at 130 bpm but the rest of my songs are playing at 137 so i would have to adjust the pitch by 5 or 6% if the song started out at a 5A, Cm and adjusted the pitch that mmuch the song would be in a 7A, Dm now right. so now i just mix it into songs that are 7A, 6A, 8A, 7B, 11A, 4A.
Nemesis44
quote:
Originally posted by Benjamin_D
cool let me try to reword this. i have a song that plays at 130 bpm but the rest of my songs are playing at 137 so i would have to adjust the pitch by 5 or 6% if the song started out at a 5A, Cm and adjusted the pitch that mmuch the song would be in a 7A, Dm now right. so now i just mix it into songs that are 7A, 6A, 8A, 7B, 11A, 4A.


Not quite, it would become 12A i.e. C#m.

It would then work with 1a, 11a, possibly 9a and 4a and should work fine with other tracks in 12a.
Your theory is almost sound. :)

Think of it like this, 6% increase would make a 5a to 12a, 12a into a 7a, a 7a into a 2a and so on.

Cheers
Nem
Benjamin_D
If you had a song that was in key Gm (6a) ans adjusted the pitch +6 or 7% what key would it be in then.

the reason i ask is A is a really low note and G is a really high note. how would this work if you are only using middle c, a & b to the left and d,e,f,g, to the right.

thanks for all of your help NEM,
qualia
hi Benjamin_D--

a song in Gm at +~6% is going to be in G#m (also called Abm)

i wouldn't think of notes as being higher or lower than each other, as every 12th note up and down repeats itself. so while you say A is a really low note, there's a G that's below it (2 half-steps). for every A there is another A an octave lower and higher. maybe i misunderstood... ;-)

Nemesis44
Also worth checking out the rising pitch theory. :)

Cheers
Nem
davemolina
I've been wondering about octave changes myself. When playing tracks that are same pitch / different octave I find myself having to compensate more bass on the EQs for the incoming track if its a higher octave.

When the basslines are in key AND octave...changing over to the new track is hardly noticable.
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