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Q5echo
quote:
Originally posted by Jake Benson
Why would the US even give money to Egypt?


i don't know man, ask Jimmy Carter.

it's all carried on from the Camp David Accords circa 1979.

actually, IMO it was one of Carter's better moments.
Dopey
quote:
Originally posted by Jake Benson
Why would the US even give money to Egypt?


to keep radicals out of power
Dopey
quote:
Originally posted by venomX
So the reports by US personnel on 9/11 are also biased then?


I would assume so, haven't read it. You really have to define bias and it's degrees if you want to have this argument. But just as a general rule, I doubt anybody can investigate themselves w/o bias.
shaolin_Z
quote:
Originally posted by Jake Benson
Why would the US even give money to Egypt?


Puppet regime.
shaolin_Z
quote:
Originally posted by LazFX
But, the US is so evil!! How can this be true??
I do not believe facts, I rather listen to and base my opinion on propaganda.... trusted new sources like Infowars.com or democracynow.com
:stongue:


I didn't know the national security archive, declassified intelligence and documents, UN documents, and human rights reports were propaganda. Thanks for enligtening me. Plus, I've never posted something from BBC, NYTimes, Washington Post, Al-Jazeera and host of other publication eigther right?
venomX
quote:
Originally posted by Dopey
I would assume so, haven't read it. You really have to define bias and it's degrees if you want to have this argument. But just as a general rule, I doubt anybody can investigate themselves w/o bias.


Then why are you asking for a report without biased?
M.Johan
quote:
Originally posted by Dopey
to keep radicals out of power


this's one

quote:
Originally posted by Q5echo
yeah this propaganda trash is nothing without mentioning things like...The Camp David Accords...the promises we keep to this very day with Egypt and Israel supplying both with billions in aid and military hardware we negotiated with Saddat to rebuild his military after his complete ass kicking in the Sinai because he didn't want to deal with the Russians for hardware.

fact: we've given $1.3billion a year every year to Egypt since 1979 totaling $50 billion because of Camp David.

that doesn't include the $200 million a year in USAID cash handouts for them to do whatever they wish.

>>BREAKDOWN OF ALL US AID TO MIDDLE EAST COUNTRIES AND ENDEAVORS<<

fact: Israel's GDP = $166 billion
fact: Egypt's GDP = $366 billion

more facts, less propaganda films


We (ARE NOT LIKE ISRAEL) by killing innocent peoples palastenin and lebanese by using Abachi choppers,intelligent bombs,cluster bombs against them (Internationally Prohibited Weapons)

WAKE UP









More of Qana images

From The World Press Photo

World Press Photo of the Year 2006

For what happened in Lebanon
and More by Getty images

While (they)'re accusing arabs/muslims for planting hostility in their children


quote:
The Geneva Conventions
Protocol I, Article 85, Section 3 of the Geneva Convention: "An indiscriminate attack affecting the civilian population or civilian objects and resulting in excessive loss of life, injury to civilians or damage to civilian objects is a grave breach of the Geneva Conventions."







READ MORE AND NOTICE the horriple support by ur government to
Israelian Goddamn crimes

quote:
Those ruling the American Empire, supported by PM Blair2, have become mad with megalomania. The War of (sic) Terror is not the solution. Those responsible for the Iraq War, illegal kidnapping and detention without representation, and for the bombs used in Afghanistan, Iraq and now Lebanon need to be put on trial for War Crimes. Sanity, dignity, respect, integrity and peace urgently need to be reclaimed.


http://www.brusselstribunal.org/MeyerLebanon.htm
www.globalsearch.ca

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index....&articleId=3054
http://electronicintifada.net/cgi-b...iew.cgi/12/4958



US gave green light to Lebanon attack:by Seymour Hersh




Yeah the war is finished in Lebanon but....WTF

quote:
US refuses to ban cluster bombs
Last Update: Saturday, February 24, 2007. 10:49pm (AEDT)

The United States has rejected an international call to ban the use of cluster bombs, despite 46 other countries calling for a ban on the weapons.

Groups such as the Red Cross and the United Nations are opposed to cluster munitions because of the high proportion of civilians killed by the weapons.

But the US State Department says cluster bombs have a place in armed conflicts as long as countries follow proper rules of engagement.

Forty-six nations at a conference in Norway have called for a treaty to ban such weapons by next year.

But some of the world's major military powers did not attend, including the US, Russia and China.


http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitem...02/s1856214.htm

Supporting these GODDAMN DOUBLE STANDARDS POLITICES in dealing with these crisis in Middle East has many faces

U.S. Vetoes of UN Resolutions Critical of Israel
(1972-2006)

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org...N/usvetoes.html

An Example

quote:
U.S. Vetoes Security Council Resolution Assailing Israel for Attacks
By WARREN HOGE
Published: November 12, 2006

Nov. 11 — The United States vetoed a Security Council resolution on Saturday that condemned Israel for its military actions in Gaza and called for an immediate withdrawal of Israeli forces from the area.

The United States ambassador, John R. Bolton, told the Council that the resolution “does not display an even-handed characterization of the recent events in Gaza, nor does it advance the cause of Israeli-Palestinian peace.”

The resolution, introduced by Qatar, the Arab representative on the Council, had been amended during two days of negotiations to meet objections that it was not balanced. But Mr. Bolton said it remained “in many places biased against Israel and politically motivated.”

In the vote, 4 countries abstained — Britain, Denmark, Japan and Slovakia — and 10 were in favor — Argentina, China, Congo, France, Ghana, Greece, Peru, Russia, Qatar and Tanzania.

The original draft had made no mention of Palestinian rocket strikes into Israel and accused Israel of conducting a “massacre” of civilians in its attack at Beit Hanun on Wednesday that killed 18 civilians.

New language was inserted condemning the firing of rockets from Gaza into Israel and calling upon the Palestinian Authority to take “immediate and sustained action” to end the rocket fire. But while the resolution named Israel as liable for the attacks on Gaza, it was silent on who or what group was responsible for the attacks on Israel.

In other changes, a reference to “indiscriminate” Israeli violence became “disproportionate” violence, and the words “military assault,” “aggression” and “massacre” were dropped in favor of the general phrase “military operations.”

Another provision had proposed that a new United Nations observer force be sent into the area to monitor a cease-fire, but it was substituted with language suggested by France that called for the creation of “an international mechanism for the protection of civilians.”

Mr. Bolton said the United States considered this “a promise which is unwise and unnecessary and which, at any rate, raises false hopes.”

The resolution that was voted on requested that Secretary General Kofi Annan establish a fact-finding mission to investigate Wednesday’s attack and report back within 30 days and called for the resumption of international efforts to achieve peace by the so-called quartet — the United Nations, the European Union, Russia and the United States.

Israel has apologized for the deaths at Beit Hanun, blaming a “technical error,” and has announced its own investigation of the episode. But it has said it will continue to try to stop militants from launching rockets into Israel from Gaza.

The United States traditionally opposes what it considers one-sided Security Council resolutions on Israel, and Saturday’s vote was the fourth time in three years that Washington had taken such action.

In July the United States vetoed another resolution on Gaza; in March 2004 it vetoed a resolution condemning Israel for killing the Hamas leader, Sheik Ahmed Yassin; and in December 2003 it blocked a measure protesting the construction of the Israeli separation barrier in the West Bank.

Almost all of the 45 nations that spoke during a daylong debate on the Middle East on Thursday condemned Israel. Arab nations are now expected to move for a vote in the 192-member General Assembly, a path they have followed in the past when such measures have failed to pass the Security Council.

Unlike Security Council resolutions, those passed in the General Assembly are nonbinding and largely symbolic. But they generally attract widespread support when Israel, and, by extension, the United States, are the targets.

Jean-Marc de la Sablière, the French ambassador, said he felt the final negotiated text was “a balanced one” and would have sent the right message to both Israel and the Palestinians. He added, “I hope that the fact this text has not been adopted will not renew tensions on the ground.”


>Source<
Justkillingtime
quote:
Israeli army 'used human shields'
By Katya Adler
BBC News, Jerusalem

An Israeli human rights group has accused Israel's army of using two young Palestinians as human shields during a recent raid in the West Bank.

The B'Tselem group said it had testimony from a 15-year-old boy, his 24-year-old cousin and also an 11-year-old boy.

They said soldiers had forced them at gunpoint to enter houses ahead of the troops during the raid in Nablus.

The use of human shields is illegal under Israeli and international law.

The Israeli defence force says it is investigating the allegations.

'Knowingly exposed'

The Israeli army occupied the Kasbah, or old town, in Nablus for five days at the end of last month. It said it was hunting for militants and their weapons.

Soldiers conducted house-to-house searches. They imposed a two-day curfew on tens of thousands of Palestinian civilians.

Amid Omeira, aged 15, told B'Tselem that a group of soldiers used the barrels of their rifles to force him to enter a number of houses ahead of them.

His 24-year-old cousin Samah told the group and the BBC of a similar experience, as did Jihan Dadush, aged 11.

From their testimonies, B'Tselem says it believes the Israeli soldiers knowingly exposed Samah and the two children to danger as they expected to find armed men in the houses.

B'Tselem has accused Israel's military authorities of not adequately informing soldiers about both Israeli and international laws which prohibit using civilians as human shields.

B'Tselem says the delay in investigating similar alleged incidents in the past suggests a leniency in the army's attitude towards soldiers who use civilians in this way.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6432133.stm
M.Johan
IN THE thread "Should this world boycott Israel?"

shaolin_Z said "Being generations removed from the experience doesn't nullify the after affects of it, healing and recovering takes time. But I understand your point, on the particular issue of slavery that is. What reperations are being made to the Palestinians?"

Then he's posted the map of the occupied Palastine land from 1946 till 2000



then Krypton said"Israel will defend itself even if the entire world turned against her."

After that Dopey the 'Palastinian"Israelian" A$$HOLE Pornstar' appeared & quoted shaolin_Z "You're absolutely right, it is the Israelis that do not care about future generations..." :wtf: :wtf: :wtf:

He posted many images showing the terrorism of arabs/muslims
"the ing KILLERS who've MUTH@@RFUF@@@ terroristic DNAs"
OMFG THIS'S.......



WATCH PEOPLE,THESE INNOCENTS've ONLY BARED STONES AGAINST WELLARMED ISRAELIAN SOLDIERS & THEIR MASSIVE TANKS ,BULLDOZERS ..................

WHO IS THE SOURCE OF TERRORISM!!!???





































































































Dopey
quote:
Originally posted by M.Johan
We (ARE NOT LIKE ISRAEL) by killing innocent peoples palastenin and lebanese by using Abachi choppers,intelligent bombs,cluster bombs against them


yea you're right, you strap explosives to your women and children and tell your children to run to the IDF soldiers because they have lollipops, us smart Palestinians know better, diplomacy is the only way :)






Q5echo
M.Johan can keep pulling at our heart strings, but smart people know better.
qussay
^

smart people also dont believe everything they see on tv .....
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