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dear america AKA mellymel is not at all racist (pg. 41)
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| Wicked Neo |
| quote: | Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
Just the same, making exception to her ignorance in the form of pity is a far more insulting thing to both her as well as anyone capable of forming a basic thought or post.
At least if she were merely a racist - which she clearly admits to all the while maintaining that she is harmless - she would simply be ignorant out of choice. Something completely reversible through nothing more than experience. Being pitifully ignorant however is a far more affecting malaise and one that people are rarely directly encouraged to alleviate. |
Her posts are full of contradiction, one post saying she hates blacks and another saying she has black friends for example.
IMO she posted something without thinking about it and has since been trying to dig herself out of the hole she dug herself but only making the hole a little bit deeper each time.
If I had concluded from her posts that she truly was as racist as it would appear, I would have no hesitation in banning her ass. |
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| Ted Promo |
| Wow I ing typed that post horribly. |
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| Gen3r4l1ty |
| quote: | Originally posted by Ted Promo
I certainly don't want to raise the taxes though. There needs to be a balance of benefits for companies who keep jobs on American soil as well as the tax ratio. |
But under the Mccain plan there is no distinction. Tax cuts will go to all corps, including those that are already 50% Indian (cough Motorola cough). How is that rewarding corps to keep jobs here? |
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
| quote: | Originally posted by gehzumteufel
I have stressed this so many times with friends. We always go on about not wanting higher taxes, yet we want to improve certain social things such as schools without paying for them. |
Well, you might argue that schools could be improved simply by shifting funds around within the system (redistribution) rather than increasing funding overall -- taking from the rich schools and giving to the poor ones. Does the child of high-earning parents deserve a better education than a poor one? I don't think so, but some people apparently do, because that is how the system works. Neither of the kids did anything to earn that money, but for some reason one kid is worth more expenditure than the other. Doesn't seem right to me... |
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| Ted Promo |
| quote: | Originally posted by Gen3r4l1ty
But under the Mccain plan there is no distinction. Tax cuts will go to all corps, including those that are already 50% Indian (cough Motorola cough). How is that rewarding corps to keep jobs here? |
I voted for Barr :p |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by Wicked Neo
Her posts are full of contradiction, one post saying she hates blacks and another saying she has black friends for example. |
one can hate blacks and still have black friends. just as i hate conservatives but still have conservative friends. having black friends does not excuse one when making racist remarks. |
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
| quote: | Originally posted by Ted Promo
Touché. And that's definitely debatable. But I definitely think that the free market should cover health care. I want people who at least *sorta* care about service and getting my dollar and keeping me as a customer as they seem more likely to be better to deal with on the whole and willing to listen and make all the health care processes as little arduous as possible. |
But the free market can still take care of health care if the government covers the shortfall for people who have no insurance. A national insurance scheme for the poor doesn't = government employing every doctor and managing every hospital. |
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| Halcyon+On+On |
| quote: | Originally posted by elFreak
As much as everyone hates paying them.
tax = services
services = a society with options. |
People handling those taxes and the allocations in which they spend them should be a far larger issue for people. If even self-interested public officials are so spurred to spend tax money on city projects and urban reform all the while fronting personal funds to gentrify potential regions, they are going to get away with it because, hey - look at all the good they did for the community! Hurrah! Not to mention the ludicrous amount of funds used to bomb brown people in foreign countries. Oh right, but they started it and stuff. hurr durr. But this is the same old song...
Oh, but as long as racism doesn't turn to direct violence, I suppose it is tolerable. |
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| Ted Promo |
| quote: | Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Well, you might argue that schools could be improved simply by shifting funds around within the system (redistribution) rather than increasing funding overall -- taking from the rich schools and giving to the poor ones. Does the children of high-earning parents deserve a better education than a poor one? I don't think so, but some people apparently do, because that is how the system works. Neither of the kids did anything to earn that money, but for some reason one kid is worth more expenditure than the other. Doesn't seem right to me... |
At least I voted against the penny tax they have going on out here in my county. A county in which the schools are completely ing wealthy and in a state where it ranks among the top in the nation in government funding per each student yet falls dismally at the bottom of the totem in actual quality education and testing results. They don't need any more money as it's clearly not solving the issues they face. |
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| elFreak |
| quote: | Originally posted by Ted Promo
Remember I said "try" to adhere as closely to that principle as possible.
:p
From a Darwinian perspective though, hell the yeah. |
is education basic?
what about military spending?
Darwinian perspectives do not work in a society where you are not born equal. A more intelligent, stronger person born in a poor environment can still not have as much chance to achieve the success that a stupid weak individual from a higher income background does.
Humans are not wild animals.
If you need proof of this just look at the current President. |
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| gehzumteufel |
| quote: | Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Well, you might argue that schools could be improved simply by shifting funds around within the system (redistribution) rather than increasing funding overall -- taking from the rich schools and giving to the poor ones. Does the children of high-earning parents deserve a better education than a poor one? I don't think so, but some people apparently do, because that is how the system works. Neither of the kids did anything to earn that money, but for some reason one kid is worth more expenditure than the other. Doesn't seem right to me... |
Agreed. And although I would rather keep taxes the same and just dump programs, this won't happen. The US federal and the state budgets need a FULL revamp but no one wants to sit down and go through it all and make sense of it. |
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