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Liberals to form Coalition with NDP (pg. 14)
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| ChemEnhanced |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sentinal
Did we not vote for Harper not more than 8 weeks ago. By having this reversed does this not undermine that very vote?
Our constitution was built on the premis of giving the power of politics to the people voted by the Canadian people. Last time I check that was the defacto Stephan Dion. |
no...you vote for a representative for your area to be a member of parliment. The members of parliment then make up the government. If the members of parliment don't have confidence in who they chose to lead the country then they have the right to choose someone else to lead the country. The other parties have more members of parliment then the CPC and if they choose to work together then they can form a government. |
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| musicsnob_NOT |
| What tonight showed is just how lacking we are with real leaders. Harper just doesn't get it and never will. Dion is a boob. Layton is a joke (don't have to wait to hear him speak). Once again the leader who comes out of this looking the best and doing something for the people he represents is Duceppe. |
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| musicsnob_NOT |
| quote: | Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
no...you vote for a representative for your area to be a member of parliment. The members of parliment then make up the government. If the members of parliment don't have confidence in who they chose to lead the country then they have the right to choose someone else to lead the country. The other parties have more members of parliment then the CPC and if they choose to work together then they can form a government. |
That's how its suppose to work but in reality most people don't even know who their MP is. They vote for the leader of the party. In fact with party dicipline unless you are in the cabinet you have no power except to follow your party. |
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| Sentinal |
| quote: | Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
no...you vote for a representative for your area to be a member of parliment. The members of parliment then make up the government. If the members of parliment don't have confidence in who they chose to lead the country then they have the right to choose someone else to lead the country. The other parties have more members of parliment then the CPC and if they choose to work together then they can form a government. |
I agree with you completely Chem Enhanced, sorry I don't know your real name. But there is a term I can't remember it now (I've been out of Uni for about 3-4 years) where an MP must support the general direction of the party or rish being kicked out of the party altogether. I beleive the term is political soverignty. But the simple fact is during an election people for the most part vote for a party based on the direction the party's leader. Yes we are geographically divided by ridings but seldom do Canadians even know who their MP is and what their individual agenda for that riding is after the election is over. |
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| ChemEnhanced |
| so the system isn't flawed...its the people who need to learn how their own electoral system works. |
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| Sentinal |
| quote: | Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
so the system isn't flawed...its the people who need to learn how their own electoral system works. |
In a sense yes in a sense no. It is flawed because this is being permitted to happen in the first place. Political party agendas should NEVER superseed the will of the people. Canada is unique because we are so large geographically there is still a strong sense of regionalism. Because of that there are various different agendas.
If people are ignorant of the Canadian political system then like I said earlier, there may be a renewed drive for reform.
To be completely honest I just hope they sort all this out before there is permenant damage to the economy and hard working Canadians suffer as a backlash to selfish bickering of 302 s in Ottawa. |
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| MarkT |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
People need to stop equating anti separatism with anti quebec. I have nothing against Quebec but i despise separatists. |
I don't equate the two. I vehemently oppose a separatist agenda too. I take the cheese line of "My Canada includes Quebec" very much to heart.
The problem with the coalition is not that one supporting party has a separatist or "Quebec first" philosophy...it's simply that the three parties have substantial ideological differences between them.
Critics, particularly the CPC, would be best served to drop the "socialists and separatists" bull and simply point out that it's highly unlikely that these three parties can form a stable gov't, given their differences.
the CPC is shooting itself in the foot (again) by playing this partisan game in an effort to sway the rest of Canada to oppose the coalition. For a party desperate for a majority mandate, the CPC sure has a funny way of attempting to appeal to enough voters for that to happen. |
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| Skipper |
| quote: | Originally posted by activate
If you're referring to subprime mortgages's you are correct, though banks in Canada have taken massive hits from that whole debacle.
everything else... we're having the exact same problems as the US.. though not to the same extent. I work closely with bankruptcy departments at my work, and we see it in our write offs every month. I hear the same thing from associates at other banks. I obviously can't provide numbers, but they're huge everywhere. |
The US is technically in a recession. Canada is hanging in with positive GDP growth. I don't argue that the bankruptcies here have increased (do you mean personal or business?) but we're in a much better position. The banks are doing better, but the overall financial sector is taking a beating partially because of assets levered to the equity markets.
I have not been following the news this week as much as I usually do, but what was so bad about the economic update last week that caused this? That there was no stimulus package? or it was too small, or focused on the wrong things...or what? I mean, the conservatives never pretended to be anything but, erm, fiscally conservative. that's part of their deal. that's what you vote for.
When are we going to know what's what here? When does the gov-gen make a decision of some kind? when she's done her little eastern european sight seeing tour? |
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| Skipper |
| quote: | Originally posted by musicsnob_NOT
Dion is a boob. |
<3
Most apt description for anyone, anywhere, ever |
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| Sentinal |
| quote: | Originally posted by smuncky
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hahahahaha |
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| Sentinal |
| quote: | Originally posted by ********
HARPER NEEDS TO STAND DOWN A TWO MONTH PROROUGE SERVES NO ONES INTERESTS. TRYING TO FORCE AN ELECTION BY BAD GOVERNANCE IS IDIOTIC. |
bad governance? his new government has only been in power for less than 8 weeks!!! he has barely had a chance to do anything... |
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