Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
Listen Navid, while diginut maybe a nut when it comes to politics, his logic is completely and utterly sound here. Sit back, read what the protagonists have to say about the whole conspiracy theory, take a deep breath and realize that there is absolutely no evidence to back up any of those claims. IF your going to start doubting science, you're going to have to start doubting society. If you doubt society, you're giong to have to start doubting civilization, and if you doubt that, you might as well go back to living in a cave and praying in the fire temple.
He is definitely nut job. Always has and always will be. I believe that one day will know more about the 911 and will no more details of what lead to the events of 911 and how things went wrong and how some of the tragedy could have been prevented.
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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
Im sure they can pull off lots of stunts if they choose to, but faking a plane crash @ the pentagon in view of hundreds of witnesses isn’t one of them.
I was talking more in general. I think the US government sometimes would do the unthinkable to achieve their goals in politics. Perhaps that is why they get away with it? since they know the majority of the people wont even consider the idea of them doing the unthinkable?
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Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
Logically, and parsimoniously, if they could pull the WDM out of their ass, why the hell would they need to orchestrate 9/11.
Let’s put it this way. The 911 attacks did a few things for the Bush administration, he got a lot more support and votes from the public and it also gave him the perfect reason to finally finish what his father couldn’t finish in Iraq during his presidency. Also because of 911 lots of new departments popped out of nowhere to so call protect the Americans against terrorism and last but not least came the infamous “War on terror”. 911 gave the Bush Admin the golden ticket to all over the world and get away with it.
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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
Why not just fake finding the WMDs in Iraq to make it not a huge ing embarrassment? :conf:
Don’t forget how many times they changed their reasons of being in Iraq. First it was Saddam was working with AL Quada then it was WMD then came bringing democracy to the country and then came war against the Islamic insurgents and finally the “serge".
They lied and lied and lied over and over again and people took it up their ass. Why wouldn’t they try use 911 events to achieve their goals? Why is it so shocking to believe that the Bush admin had the knowledge and power to stop the 911 attacks but decided to let is slide?
geroin
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Originally posted by love_child
E2EK1EL
Round 2
Core of Corruption is a documentary film series which details a comprehensive investigation into clandestine intelligence operations and conspiracies. The project is surfacing exclusive whistleblowers, insiders and critical evidence for the very first time. Over 2,000 hours of credible network news clips have been surfaced for this ground breaking event, most of which have never been seen since they aired and have never been available on the internet. Some of the video news segments for this project, when requested from the networks, were denied access to and corporate representatives would say that the information sought does not exist or has been misplaced. Someone doesnt want the public to see these stories, that when put together, establish a conspiracy of the magnitude that could change the way one views the world. Countless millions of people are being manipulated and lied to by a network of individuals within government that work on behalf of private interests. The individuals were involved in the terrorist attacks of September 11th. Many of those same figures are are connected to historical events that have shaped our understanding of government crime. For instance, the Iran Contra affair involved many figures that showed up in the 9/11 attacks. Drug running, terrorism, money laundering and arms trading are carried out in concert with this network. They manipulate the worlds response to these issues on behalf of very high profile figures in some of the most influential think tanks and political interest groups. Figures include well known politicians as well as established businesses on Wall Street. This project, started more than five years ago, is going to break ground in mapping and identifying the most important and credible evidence as well as establish why these networks operate with impunity
Here's another doc for you ppl to debate about.
PS: the US GOV x 2
Joss Weatherby
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Originally posted by hardcore trancer
Don’t forget how many times they changed their reasons of being in Iraq. First it was Saddam was working with AL Quada then it was WMD then came bringing democracy to the country and then came war against the Islamic insurgents and finally the “serge".
They lied and lied and lied over and over again and people took it up their ass. Why wouldn’t they try use 911 events to achieve their goals? Why is it so shocking to believe that the Bush admin had the knowledge and power to stop the 911 attacks but decided to let is slide?
You just explained it, they (the US government) are ing incompetent. That is far more sad and disturbing in my opinion. There is evidence that shows that the 9/11 attacks were on the radar but no one could put the pieces together. I do not think it was intentional that they let it happen, but more so that all the agencies meant to stop attacks like this were just that bad at doing their jobs.
To think that these same people could pull of this HUGE conspiracy is, like I've said before, giving them way too much credit. The conspiracy theory idiots here are the ones who really trust the government too much, thinking they are capable of something so complicated and being able to keep it under-wraps the whole time, especially in a free society like that of the US.
Joss Weatherby
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Originally posted by E2EK1EL
Round 2
Your name is Ezekiel (aka a Jew), your flag is Chinese, you live in Canada, and you are bashing the US.
Hrmm. Yes, you seem like someone who is unbiased and trustworthy.
Now sit down bitch.
pkcRAISTLIN
You can always find the truth on youtube :haha:
Comrade Stalin
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Originally posted by E2EK1EL
Why don't we link every complex historical event that ever happened together in an unending chain of conspiracies. It all makes sense! :eyes:
yankeeBaby
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Originally posted by DigiNut
Goddamn some of you people are ing stupid. I mean I have seen some stupid on this forum but me, this is some of the dumbest and most ing insulting horse I have ever heard.
I just lost any respect I may have had left for you mothering conspiracy whackjobs, not only posting your retarded bat crazy drivel here so everyone can plainly see that you have all the collective intelligence of a jar of olives, but doing it on 9/11 just to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that you are also s of the highest order with all the collective tact of a vaginal blood fart.
I cannot believe that given nearly 10 years for you people to actually get informed, all you've managed to do is stare at a bunch of ty videos and ugly-ass websites thrown together by dickless publicity whores who drank a little too much hair spray and antifreeze. Oh sure, you could read the thousands of pages of FEMA reports and police reports and fire and rescue reports, you could look at the massive libraries of pictures and videos that weren't taken with shaky hands and cheap ass $5 disposable cameras, you could actually try to learn a thing or two about basic physics and chemistry. But no, it is far more convenient to stay inside your little echo chambers slurping up fetid nuggets of anal scrapings from dips who are probably even bigger morons than you are but are also unemployed and therefore have a lot of time on their hands to spend pissing all over not only the people who lost their lives in the attacks, not only the people who gave their lives trying to bring down the goat fuckers who actually did it, not only the rescue workers who saw it all happen and testified, not only the families who lost loved ones and have to constantly endure s like you telling them that the government lied to them and that those people may even still be alive, not only them but also every ing reasonably-sane person with enough intelligence and self-respect to actually ing educate themselves.
"Loser" isn't nearly a strong enough word to describe the kind of pathetic idiot that spends 9 years reading and watching this garbage but can't manage to find ten seconds to do a little critical thinking and actually question how plausible the conspiracy cumwads are compared to the massive ing mountain of official records and the testimony from hundreds if not thousands of eyewitnesses.
I seriously hope that none of you people ever sit on a jury. In fact, I seriously hope that you all eat a big bowl of and die of parasites while bleeding out your ass. Hey cretins, protip: Try adding some bleach to your orange juice when you wake up tomorrow morning, I hear it helps you resist the evil mind-control waves that forced 50,000 people to keep this conspiracy a secret!
Awesome. I'm impressed: this is easily your best post in TA history.
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Originally posted by DigiNut
are also unemployed and therefore have a lot of time on their hands to spend pissing all over not only the people who lost their lives in the attacks, not only the people who gave their lives trying to bring down the goat fuckers who actually did it, not only the rescue workers who saw it all happen and testified, not only the families who lost loved ones and have to constantly endure s like you telling them that the government lied to them and that those people may even still be alive, not only them but also every ing reasonably-sane person with enough intelligence and self-respect to actually ing educate themselves.
^^^SPOT ON!
gummybear
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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
You just explained it, they (the US government) are ing incompetent. That is far more sad and disturbing in my opinion. There is evidence that shows that the 9/11 attacks were on the radar but no one could put the pieces together. I do not think it was intentional that they let it happen, but more so that all the agencies meant to stop attacks like this were just that bad at doing their jobs.
To think that these same people could pull of this HUGE conspiracy is, like I've said before, giving them way too much credit. The conspiracy theory idiots here are the ones who really trust the government too much, thinking they are capable of something so complicated and being able to keep it under-wraps the whole time, especially in a free society like that of the US.
The biggest super power in the world that spends BILLIONS on homeland security and probably has an FBI and CIA operative in my neighbourhood watching all the Muslims, couldn't put together the pieces of a puzzle that was clearly laid out in front of them? We're talking about the big 24 piece baby puzzles too..not the 1000 piece ones that you can never complete in your lifetime..:) It just doesn't make sense to me.
I just believe it's worthy of thought and research. For people to get so offended that there are some that question and to use the fact that many innocent people died, as some sort of an emotional blackmail, is downright insulting. I feel horrible for the people that perished, I have watched many videos and documentaries about what happened to those people. It is a horrible way to die and I can't even comprehend the horror. My heart goes out to them and their families. My heart also goes out the the thousands of men and women that have died in the name of a war that should never have been. It's tragic all around and I just don't understand why people that don't blindly follow what a corrupt government says and does are, being deemed to be losers, idiots..and having death wished on them. So ridiculous.
pkcRAISTLIN
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Originally posted by gummybear
The biggest super power in the world that spends BILLIONS on homeland security and probably has an FBI operative in my neighbourhood watching all the Muslims, couldn't put together the pieces of a puzzle that was clearly laid out in front of them? We're talking about the big 24 piece baby puzzles too..not the 1000 piece ones that you can never complete in your lifetime..:) It just doesn't make sense to me.
Arguments from incredulity suit you.
Joss Weatherby
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Originally posted by gummybear
The biggest super power in the world that spends BILLIONS on homeland security and probably has an FBI operative in my neighbourhood watching all the Muslims, couldn't put together the pieces of a puzzle that was clearly laid out in front of them? We're talking about the big 24 piece baby puzzles too..not the 1000 piece ones that you can never complete in your lifetime..:) It just doesn't make sense to me.
They can now. Our posture pre-9/11 was not focused on terrorism as much as it is now. Also the main issue with things not coming together was that all these agencies gathering information were not working together, sometimes they acted like they were competing for something (what?) and wouldn't even help each other out (inter-agency rivalries, etc).
Comrade Stalin
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Originally posted by gummybear
The biggest super power in the world that spends BILLIONS on homeland security and probably has an FBI and CIA operative in my neighbourhood watching all the Muslims, couldn't put together the pieces of a puzzle that was clearly laid out in front of them? We're talking about the big 24 piece baby puzzles too..not the 1000 piece ones that you can never complete in your lifetime..:) It just doesn't make sense to me.
I just believe it's worthy of thought and research. For people to get so offended that there are some that question and to use the fact that many innocent people died, as some sort of an emotional blackmail, is downright insulting. I feel horrible for the people that perished, I have watched many videos and documentaries about what happened to those people. It is a horrible way to die and I can't even comprehend the horror. My heart goes out to them and their families. My heart also goes out the the thousands of men and women that have died in the name of a war that should never have been. It's tragic all around and I just don't understand why people that don't blindly follow what a corrupt government says and does are, being deemed to be losers, idiots..and having death wished on them. So ridiculous.
Nobody said there isn't any new information or that even the 9/11 commission and numerous other investigations were the final complete explanation for everything 9/11. But any new objective investigation or commission isn't going to conclude anything close to any proposed 9/11 conspiracy theory. And when they don't, the CTer's are only going to resort to accusing the newest commission of being a tool of the NWO or something. The idiocy will never die down.
The fact of the matter is, it's not a intellectual debate between two equals. It's basically, flat-earthers versus geologists. No one in their right mind would view the opinion of a flat-earther as equally valid as a geologist.
