Originally posted by Spam
"Ssssssssssssssssssssss" (<--- That's the sound of the air escaping that wind-tunnel you call a head).
while we're talking about sounds.... "whooooooosh" :P
Nrg2Nfinit
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Originally posted by gummybear
Are you talking to me? If you are, please take your head out of your ass, put on your glasses and re read the thread. I have not once gotten into the debate regarding how the buildings came down. I saw the planes hit the towers, so I would agree that planes did indeed hit the towers.
so what is your conclusion based on that? please raise your validated suspisions.
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Just because I subscribe to a train of thought the questions the Bush administration doesn't mean that I also subscribe to EVERY theory out there.
what are you questioning exactly? be specific, lets hear the allegations.
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That's the great thing about being a free thinker.
you can think whatever you want that's great. But if you expect to bring your idea to the table without any evidence or fact to back it up, expect an onslaught of senseless rhetoric of the same caliber.
Perhaps i should start a thread about the toothfairy existing, lets see how well that flies.
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Newsflash, not everyone is going to agree with you and adopt your way of thinking. Furthermore, just because YOU think a certain way, it doesn't automatically make that train of thought absolute. The situation is so convoluted that I am pretty certain that there is not one person in this thread that has the whole truth. Grow up.
Well bring something of substance to the table, some valid arguments. Galileo had logical reasoning and evidence when he thought the earth revolved around the sun, and not the opposite. Your claims here are no different then those of creationism, Scientology or flat earth society (baseless fantasy).
Please grow up and site a valid reference. There is a reason why we have peer reviewed articles. They set a scientific standard of credible knowledge, you know the knowledge that got us out of the cave and into civilization.
gummybear
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Originally posted by Comrade Stalin
Apparently, free thinking means you believe the stupidest bull. If this were about raising or lowering taxes, then by all means, believe whatever mainstream political view you want. You won't find me chastising you for not believing what I believe. I could care less. It's when people such as yourself are peddling psuedo-intellectual bull, or really, just flat out lies. You may not be lying because you actually believe (for the stupidest of reasons), but they are mis-truths nonetheless. I mean really, what does finding a passport in the debris really mean? What are trying to imply here? You say you believe the planes brought the towers down, then you come at me as if you were a 9/11 truther asking me how they found a stupid little passport. Whether or not they found a passport proves absolutely nothing. So what are you getting at here. Either you believe terrorists did it or you don't. So which is it? There is nothing I hate more than a wishy-washy line of argument, such as that which you've posted.
I'm not arguing with you because I know that it is a waste of time. It is a back and forth that will never end up with anyone getting any further in the argument. These types of debates to me are just pointless. Especially when you're having a dialogue with someone who resorts to name calling and insults.
Of course I believe terrorists did the dirty work but who was driving the "machine" so to speak is not as clear to me. Maybe for you it is clear as day and so be it. You believe that a bunch of Muslims, entered the country, planned the biggest act of terrorism on American soil, got trained to be pilots (while some of them were living with people that were on the FBI watch list) and executed the whole deal. That is fine with me, I don't hate on you for it or judge you because you perceive differently than I do.
I guess if I was to question the fact that IRAQ had weapons of mass destruction (which i did) BEFORE the truth came out, YOU would have labeled me as an idiot and a loser at that time too.
Anyhow, have yourself a great evening, this is pointless.
Nrg2Nfinit
Honestly, you need to give the terrorists more credit. The majority of them were well educated people, sure they were delusional with their relgious philosiphies, but that didn't take away from their intellect and ability to learn to carry out projects.
its very difficult to become an engineer with a low intelligence.
So what do you think happened?
Comrade Stalin
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Originally posted by gummybear
I'm not arguing with you because I know that it is a waste of time. It is a back and forth that will never end up with anyone getting any further in the argument. These types of debates to me are just pointless. Especially when you're having a dialogue with someone who resorts to name calling and insults.
I wish it was a back and forth but you haven't "backed" anything you've had to say. You have not even attempted to refute any of my attempts to point out to you the gaping logical fallacies of any shade of 9/11 conspiracy with which you believe.
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Of course I believe terrorists did the dirty work but who was driving the "machine" so to speak is not as clear to me. Maybe for you it is clear as day and so be it. You believe that a bunch of Muslims, entered the country, planned the biggest act of terrorism on American soil, got trained to be pilots (while some of them were living with people that were on the FBI watch list) and executed the whole deal. That is fine with me, I don't hate on you for it or judge you because you perceive differently than I do.
And that's it? No evidence, no attempt to support your point of view? Not even a rebuttal of my arguments? You believe this based on what? A passport found in the debris?
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I guess if I was to question the fact that IRAQ had weapons of mass destruction (which i did) BEFORE the truth came out, YOU would have labeled me as an idiot and a loser at that time too.
There is a difference between believing something based on evidence and believing something with no logical reason why. That's why I liken the entire 9/11 truth movement to a pseudo-religious cult.
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Anyhow, have yourself a great evening, this is pointless.
All I'm asking is either support your point of view or face the scrutiny that is inevitable when you voice a certain point of view in public.
Xavier Moriarty
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Originally posted by Comrade Stalin
there is no arguing with the likes of you or with the likes of that weatherby guy.
i've noticed some striking similarities in your posts and it took me a while to realise that you're both atheists/brights and as such, you're beyond civil and constructive conversation.
doug stanhope described you kind best, right here:
3:20-4:00
lol @ fistfight !!!!
evil_cookie
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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
Wait are you serious?
So even though there is video of the plane, thousands of witnesses, etc... :nervous:
Are you on drugs. You on drug aren't ya... :stongue:
There was no plane! God you people are so easily brainwashed by the government and the media. If you took a second and read some of the expert analysis in this thread, then you'd realize it as well.
For instance,
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Originally posted by gummybear
there is a WEALTH of information out there...
Where you ask? OUT THERE, that's where.
Also, you CANNOT argue with the soundness of this argument:
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Originally posted by hardcore trancer
I think the US government sometimes would do the unthinkable to achieve their goals in politics. Perhaps that is why they get away with it? since they know the majority of the people wont even consider the idea of them doing the unthinkable?
Satisfied yet? All it takes is a little bit of rationality to see the real truth. What's rationality you ask?
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Originally posted by culorut
Rational thinking requires an individual not to believe anything proven liars say.
Boom. That's rationality.
Whatever. You're all idiots. The information is OUT THERE.
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Originally posted by gummybear
the information is out there, the dots have been connected many, many times..people should take some time to do their research and be aware of wtf is going on this world, rather than believing everything governments shove down our throats.
Go connect some dots and you'll clearly see that 9/11 was an inside job, Osama Bin Laden is a blood relative of the Bush family, no planes were involved, rather, MISSILES, lots and lots of missiles. Also, is it a coincidence that no Jewish people were killed on 9/11? I think not. It seems to me that there are only two INESCAPABLE options: either Osama Bin Laden is actually a Jew, therefore he warned the Jews beforehand, OR that Bush is actually a Zionist Jew, and therefore, it was he who warned the Jewish people to stay home on 9/11.
Originally posted by Xavier Moriarty
there is no arguing with the likes of you or with the likes of that weatherby guy.
i've noticed some striking similarities in your posts and it took me a while to realise that you're both atheists/brights and as such, you're beyond civil and constructive conversation.
doug stanhope described you kind best, right here:
All I ask is for people to support their opinions and face up to scrutiny. If you or they can't do that, don't bother ing posting it, and then crying like a little bitch when someone calls you out.
pkcRAISTLIN
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Originally posted by Xavier Moriarty
there is no arguing with the likes of you or with the likes of that weatherby guy.
i've noticed some striking similarities in your posts and it took me a while to realise that you're both atheists/brights and as such, you're beyond civil and constructive conversation.
this isn’t true, at least for Stalin. Stalin had a brief flirtation with the federal reserve conspiracy nonsense, but we talked him through it and he realised the error in his ways. He was respectful and eager to learn and certainly wasn’t calling anyone sheeple or shill etc.
love_child
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Originally posted by evil_cookie
But you have not provided any evidence... that is all heresay
