Originally posted by jennypie
Bahaha, because people don't do or say things that aren't true just for fame/publicity/etc.
True but the problem is there are thousands of people which include the eyewitnesses, firefighters, rescue workers and more that were actually there on 9/11 that refute the official story the way it was later told to the public.
Berry Jennings was the Deputy Director of Emergency Services Department for the New York City Housing Authority, he was called in along with Michael Hess (who had a meeting with the mayor, Rudy Giuliani) that day to report to WTC building 7.
Micheal Hess heard, felt and experienced the explosions in WTC building 7 just like Jennings did before WTC 1 and 2 collapsed. They were in the building together.
No debris could have caused explosions in WTC building 7 because WTC 1 and 2 did not collapse yet. It was 9:30am when explosions went off in the basement of WTC building 7 and the first trade tower did not collapse until around a half hour later.
I could understand if it was a small handful of people but when many people say things were not reported at all and the official story tellers have been proven to lie over and over again at some point you should listen.
Should you believe liars like the same ones who told everyone about the bull WMD's in Iraq or the people who were actually there on 9/11?
Your choice.
Comrade Stalin
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Originally posted by Comrade Stalin
Posted again because it's so ing hilarious. Again, culorut says, the US government ignored intelligence warnings of 9/11, but because the US government did 9/11, they ignored intelligence warnings about themselves!!! LOL!!!:haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha:
Even funnier he didn't even reply, but continues to post more bull!:stongue:
culorut
Michael Hess shown in WTC building 7, 8th floor. He and Jennings had to go up to from floor 6 because of explosions below in the basement before WTC 1 and 2 collapsed.
This video was released recently via the Freedom of Information Act.
culorut
I guess the firefighters are lying for fame.
culorut
Giuliani Gets Exposed As Fraud by Firefighters
Believe the hero's and their families or the lying crook in the suit and tie?
culorut
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pkcRAISTLIN
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Originally posted by shagnew13
Ok if the Steel Columns didn't Melt from whatever it is that brought them down, and there was no physical damage done to the structure from the falling debris from 1 & 2 (which has been reported).
only conspiratards claim there was no damage. everyone else knows there was plenty of damage and a fire that took up about a third of the building. why don't you know this? its an honest question, its been 9 years and you still don't have your facts straight. why?
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Originally posted by shagnew13
Then how exactly did it come down??
Originally posted by culorut
I guess the firefighters are lying for fame.
I also would like to know why these fire fighters would lie about what they saw. PKC Do you also consider them as a bunch of conspiracy theorist?:conf:
pkcRAISTLIN
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Originally posted by hardcore trancer
I also would like to know why these fire fighters would lie about what they saw. PKC Do you also consider them as a bunch of conspiracy theorist?:conf:
either you're being obtuse or you're just really, really thick. just because something looks "like" a bomb or whatever, does not mean it was.
seriously:
6. Inability to tell good evidence from bad.
Conspiracy theorists have no place for peer-review, for scientific knowledge, for the respectability of sources. The fact that a claim has been made by anybody, anywhere, is enough for them to reproduce it and demand that the questions it raises be answered, as if intellectual enquiry were a matter of responding to every rumour. While they do this, of course, they will claim to have "open minds" and abuse the sceptics for apparently lacking same.
nobody in the NYFD believes the towers were brought down by explosives. so, you tards can embellish testimony or language all you want and you still come up with all.
Comrade Stalin
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Originally posted by culorut
Michael Hess shown in WTC building 7, 8th floor. He and Jennings had to go up to from floor 6 because of explosions below in the basement before WTC 1 and 2 collapsed.
Another utterly ridiculous lapse in logic. When engineers demolish a building, they do it in seconds. They don't set off randomly timed explosions minutes or hours before the building collapses.
Oh, can't forget about the US government ignoring intelligence warnings about themselves, which you hilariously fail to acknowledge. Keep it up champ.
culorut
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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
only conspiratards claim there was no damage. everyone else knows there was plenty of damage and a fire that took up about a third of the building. why don't you know this? its an honest question, its been 9 years and you still don't have your facts straight. why?
There was no considerable damage from the debris, the same report concludes it was the fires (bull as well) that brought the building down.
Complete lies, a third of the building was not on fire and even if it was not one steel framed structure has blown up and crumbled to the ground in the history of mankind due to fires.
On 9/11 the official story and it's blind followers want the rest of the world to believe this happened 3 times on the same day. The odds of this are baffling, you would have a better chance winning the lottery 1,000 times consecutively.
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Originally posted by culorut
WTC building 7 was not damaged severely as noted by NIST (in their final report). They could not report this because everyone knows it simply did not happen. NIST concluded that the building came down due to fires but this has never once happened in the history of steel framed buildings.
Most of the fuel if not all of it was recovered from the tanks. In order for the debris to get to the supply fuel pipe alone in WTC building 7 it would have had to,
1. Break through 3 perimeter columns.
2. Break through 5 steel and concrete floors including at least 1 floor support beam per floor.
3. Knock 2 elevators out of their shafts then through a wall and into the hallway.
4. Take out a core column and then finally break through a concrete masonry wall and a 6" steel and concrete floor.
^^
I did not even include that the debris first had to pass right through WTC 6 (yes the whole building) and across the street before even reaching WTC building 7. All in all about 300 feet more or less. Don't believe me? Read the NIST report and check every last detail I just typed up.
Does this sound a little ing far fetched to you? It should and that's what the official story and the bogus reports want you to believe. No explaining what so ever that the debris would have had to perform nothing short of a miracle to start these massive fires that supposedly caused WTC building 7 to crumble.
Below is not the type of fire that causes buildings to fall symmetrically in almost free fall speed. In fact the whole building could have been engulfed in flames and it would have never fell the way it did.
The investigation needs to be revisited and done properly by looking at all possible avenues, especially explosives (aka controlled demolition) which the NIST and FEMA refused to do (coincidentally).
In truth a rigged building can be "pulled" at any given time which would explain why WTC building 7 came down much later in the day compared to WTC 1 and 2.
Lastly it is science or lack there of that leads millions of people to believe that 9/11 was a cover up. Experts from around the world agree.
Danny Jowenko Controlled Demolitions Expert
culorut
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Originally posted by Comrade Stalin
Another utterly ridiculous lapse in logic. When engineers demolish a building, they do it in seconds. They don't set off randomly timed explosions minutes or hours before the building collapses.
Oh, can't forget about the US government ignoring intelligence warnings about themselves, which you hilariously fail to acknowledge. Keep it up champ.
WTC building 7 fell practically at the rate of free fall (WTC 1 and 2 did as well). Fires cannot cause this no matter how you want to spin it. In order for fires to do this they would have had to remove all the support columns at the same time to cause symmetrical collapses, in other words impossible.
Controlled demolition does this every single time without a hitch.
The US government did ignore 9/11 specific warnings, so who's lying and covering things up?
The many agencies from countless countries around the world or the same lying bastards that told everyone there were WMD's in Iraq?
