the fallen, and conspiracy whack jobs should take a long walk off a short pier.
gummybear
RIP to all those that died on that day..
That being said, anyone who thinks that the government did not know that the attacks were coming has their head in the sand..The whole situation is mind blowing and beyond the scope of what most people are willing to confront.
People don't want their bubbles to burst and have to admit the fact that this is one messed up world. Governments, for the most part DO NOT work for best interest of the common folk. They don't give a about us and it's laughable that there are still people in this day and age, with access to so much information, who still have endless faith in systems that are created to basically control the masses and dumb us down.
Anyways, the information is out there, the dots have been connected many, many times..people should take some time to do their research and be aware of wtf is going on this world, rather than believing everything governments shove down our throats.
I find it funny that some still can't grasp the concept that the U.S.government/the Bush administration are/were fundamentally corrupt, EVEN with the evidence that they blatantly lied to the public in order to attack Iraq.
Just my two cents..;)
tubularbills
lol
Joss Weatherby
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Originally posted by gummybear
RIP to all those that died on that day..
That being said, anyone who thinks that the government did not know that the attacks were coming has their head in the sand..The whole situation is mind blowing and beyond the scope of what most people are willing to confront.
People don't want their bubbles to burst and have to admit the fact that this is one messed up world. Governments, for the most part DO NOT work for best interest of the common folk. They don't give a about us and it's laughable that there are still people in this day and age, with access to so much information, who still have endless faith in systems that are created to basically control the masses and dumb us down.
Anyways, the information is out there, the dots have been connected many, many times..people should take some time to do their research and be aware of wtf is going on this world, rather than believing everything governments shove down our throats.
I find it funny that some still can't grasp the concept that the U.S.government/the Bush administration are/were fundamentally corrupt, EVEN with the evidence that they blatantly lied to the public in order to attack Iraq.
Just my two cents..;)
Democracy is corrupt.
At least in a totalitarian state its par for the course and expected. :p
Xavier Moriarty
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Originally posted by Comrade Stalin
....how such an operation was kept secret, is beyond me. Not to mention the fact that whoever took part must have either been killed or just kept their mouths shut, so as to keep it secret. Absolutely impossible.
magic bullet theory comes to mind.
TranceGrooves
It is pretty ing stupid if you think all the cops, firefighters and medics had to be informed as well about the attack for it to be planned by govt.
I highly doubt if the president even knew what was going to take place. The only people whon knew about its planning are either very high rank officials and/or dumb millitants who are dead now.
None of us know the facts and people not beleiving in Loose Change have nothing else to base their story on what they heard on media and read in newspappers. This entire thread about "documentary i saw is better than the documentary you have seen" is nothing more than a my dick is bigger than your dick contest.
Lastly, i just can't get my head around one thing, floors tumbling on top of floors and crushing everything in their way come falling down straight?!? Nothing went sideways?? Pretty strange if you ask me but then again just like you, i am also claiming that my dick is bigger than yours!!!
Joss Weatherby
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Originally posted by TranceGrooves
Lastly, i just can't get my head around one thing, floors tumbling on top of floors and crushing everything in their way come falling down straight?!? Nothing went sideways?? Pretty strange if you ask me but then again just like you, i am also claiming that my dick is bigger than yours!!!
Its actually incredibly easy to wrap your head around. :rolleyes: You even explained it in your own post... :wtf:
Floors pancaked, exoskeleton of the building contained it as it began to fall, till the exo skeleton collapsed on top (inwards, as it was being pulled by the remaining floors) Most of its structural integrity came from the outer skeleton of the building, which allowed the floors to be wide and open with no supporting beams running vertically, which maximized floor/rent space.
DaRoZa
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Originally posted by gummybear
Anyways, the information is out there, the dots have been connected many, many times..people should take some time to do their research and be aware of wtf is going on this world, rather than believing everything governments shove down our throats.
where's the information? youtube? prisonplanet.com? lol.
anyone can tell something is y with the whole situation but coming to a conclusion that the gov't as a whole was involved, based on what information is available, is just stupid. you say the gov't is involved and doesn't give a about people.. why don't you name some specific senators, congressmen, white house staff members who have clearly demonstrated malicious intent surrounding 9/11.
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Originally posted by TranceGrooves
None of us know the facts and people not beleiving in Loose Change have nothing else to base their story on what they heard on media and read in newspappers.
as biased, corrupt and jewish that some people think they are, "dameed'ja" will be all over the first shred of evidence that points to gov't involvement in 9/11. just like they were on bush's ass for the iraq war and rightly so.
the reason you don't see much of the media take the same angles as conspiracy theorists is its purely yellow journalism with no facts... they stopped giving idiots credit because the experts have spoken on stuff like the causes of the towers falling, see nrg's post... it's just like people who repeatedly insist fluoride is a conspiracy to harm or dumb us down when scientific evidence proves otherwise. the arguments aren't brought to attention in the mainstream because they don't deserve that kind of attention, not because someone is censoring them. don't you think tens of thousands of journalists have looked into 9/11 since it happened? wouldn't SOMETHING besides the loose change BS be found by now - or were they all creepily approached by some Slugworth type character from the illuminati telling them to back off when they were about to find the smoking gun? or maybe gummybear's theory is right and sense and they're just afraid of the truth and don't want to admit the world is one big gov't conspiracy :rolleyes:
richard raiban
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Originally posted by nsane
Let me guess, you also believe that the moon landing was faked.
there is enough evidence which proves this was a hoax.
infinity HiGH
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Originally posted by DaRoZa
where's the information? youtube? prisonplanet.com? lol.
anyone can tell something is y with the whole situation but coming to a conclusion that the gov't as a whole was involved, based on what information is available, is just stupid. you say the gov't is involved and doesn't give a about people.. why don't you name some specific senators, congressmen, white house staff members who have clearly demonstrated malicious intent surrounding 9/11.
ya ok just pull senators and officials names out of thin air. if finding names would be as easy as making a post then none of us would be having this discussion. the fact that you need that sort of proof to realize that the gov doesn't give a about the people is slightly naive.
anyways i haven't really been reading into this topic for a couple of years now but there was a number of books that made it painstakingly obvious that the Bush admin was aware of a terrorist plot in the US and did nothing about it. It became quite clear after 9/11 that both the CIA and FBI had a few of the terrorists on their radars but never did anything about it.
Nrg2Nfinit
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Originally posted by richard raiban
there is enough evidence which proves this was a hoax.
