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How many of you take E? (pg. 21)
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| starsearcher |
To be perfectly serious you guys are just fishin' for excuses...how can you compare taking nyquil and E...
I don't think anyone drinks that or take any medications for "pleasure" or to "enhance" anything without a logical reason.... :rolleyes:
Stop comparing medicine (which is something someone ACTUALLY NEEDS) and drugs (which is something someone actually doesn't). You're just strying to justify your own use of drugs by blaming someone else for doing drugs...like seriously...
Some arguments were at least normal but this is just BS...like i said 10 times already leave medicine and etc out of this... |
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| DigiNut |
| quote: | Originally posted by starsearcher
To be perfectly serious you guys are just fishin' for excuses...how can you compare taking nyquil and E...
I don't think anyone drinks that or take any medications for "pleasure" or to "enhance" anything without a logical reason.... :rolleyes:
Stop comparing medicine (which is something someone ACTUALLY NEEDS) and drugs (which is something someone actually doesn't). You're just strying to justify your own use of drugs by blaming someone else for doing drugs...like seriously...
Some arguments were at least normal but this is just BS...like i said 10 times already leave medicine and etc out of this... |
Dude shut up already, you're repeating the same junk arguments that have already been taken down in this thread. A lot of "medications" contain the exact same substances people use to get high, just in lower doses, for example DXM in NyQuil, Robitussin and a bunch of other stuff (just read the ingredients on the OTC drugs). Not MDMA per se, but that was also once used as a type of medication by psychotherapists.
You're pointing to a "line" between medication and recreational drugs that simply does not exist in real life - only in the words used to refer to them. We've already established that there are many kinds of medicines which people take but don't NEED, like cough and cold medicines, inhalers, stress medicines, acne medicines, sleep aids, wake-up pills, and a whole host of herbal remedies like garlic pills, echinacea, zinc, elderberry and god only knows what else. And you don't have a problem with these.
So why do people take these "medications"? To FEEL BETTER. Why do people take a drug like ecstasy? To FEEL BETTER. Looking at the situation objectively there is almost no difference, except for the thousands of people who claim that ecstasy has given their life more meaning than any OTC drug ever did. You can't claim any PHYSICAL difference between ecstasy and these medicines because the medicines don't actually cure anything, they just treat the symptoms. Not one cough medicine actually cures what's causing you to cough - they just suppress the cough reflex in your brain, which is "ing" with your brain just like ecstasy is.
So just exactly what IS the difference between MDMA and all these other "medicines", other than your own holier-than-thou disdain for it and the people who use it, despite having never tried it yourself and not knowing the first thing about most of the people who use it? Simply because you say "leave medicine and etc out of this" does not make it irrelevant to the topic, no matter how much you'd like it to.
Same goes to you as went to cap, get off your high horse and stop trying to pretend you're better than everybody else because you haven't taken a particular substance.
Incidentally, you might be interested to know that I've always been a defender of MDMA - years before I ever tried it myself. So your pathetic argument that people are only trying to justify their "abuse" cannot possibly hold with me - I was "justifying" it long before I touched the stuff. |
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| LoCa |
Loving this thread! I was wondering when another "drug" debate would come up :D
As for me... not much point in saying much since Diginut has already said it all.
Yes it's not necessarily the best choice you can make, but it's our choice, and as long as you're informed about what you are doing or taking, what's the major harm in it? None of us are trying to force anyone to do it so stop trying to force us to quit based on facts that you're pulling out of your ass or on your own (biased) opinions.
Moderation is what it's all about (and Emery if you see this, don't start with your "moderation is a myth" campaign :p). |
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| starsearcher |
| quote: | Originally posted by DigiNut
Dude shut up already, you're repeating the same junk arguments that have already been taken down in this thread. A lot of "medications" contain the exact same substances people use to get high, just in lower doses, for example DXM in NyQuil, Robitussin and a bunch of other stuff (just read the ingredients on the OTC drugs). Not MDMA per se, but that was also once used as a type of medication by psychotherapists.
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OMG did you even read what I said??? :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Anyway yes you are right - I'm repeating the same junk arguments - because you keep comming up with new ones :rolleyes: |
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| crazedcanuck |
Why spend money on E when you can get the sweet, sweet crack on nearly any street corner and @ a fraction of the price??
The smart shopper is the happy shopper. |
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| DeE420 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dj Tezo
interesting fact about aspartame...
When it is ingested your body does not know how to break it down directly so at one stage of it's digestion it is broken down into formaldehyde. This is a highly carcinogenic chemical that is used to embalm corpses. This has been proven but it's still on the market because they can't prove how long it stays in this stage. So drinking diet coke is like drinking embalming fluid. Cheers! |
YUMMY!! I'm off to buy some diet coke...... |
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| DigiNut |
| quote: | Originally posted by starsearcher
OMG did you even read what I said??? :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: |
Yes, the problem seems to be that you haven't read what anyone else has said. :rolleyes:
Either that, or you just aren't listening to anyone and instead of actually coming up with a logical argument you just post your tired old bullcrap. You haven't made a single objective point so far - you just keep repeating yourself in the vain hope that people more educated than you will suddenly believe that you have.
Dear lord, this is not one of the better drug debates I've seen. It reminds me of the religious debates with fundies (fundamentalists), whereby 12 atheists present rock-solid incontrovertible proof that the Earth is not 5000 years old and that evolution really did occur, and the fundies simply continue to say "Nope, none of that can be true, it says so in the Bible and you're all going to burn in hell for your lack of faith."
Get a life man - for future reference, next time you feel the need to preach about drugs even though you don't know the first thing about them, keep your mouth shut. You honestly have no idea how many people you're pissing off with these comments. I said before that people who have never done E usually can't tell when somebody else is on it, and that is the absolute truth - so maybe, just maybe, people whom you consider your friends are losing a lot of respect for you right now. I don't know you or your friends, but you might want to keep that in mind, is all I'm saying. |
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| starsearcher |
| quote: | Originally posted by DigiNut
so maybe, just maybe, people whom you consider your friends are losing a lot of respect for you right now. I don't know you or your friends, but you might want to keep that in mind, is all I'm saying. |
Funny how you mentioned that in about 3 other threads...I'm trembling with fear and lost all my friends...oh god whhhyyyyyyy 
I'm sorry for posting my tired old bullcrap while you are amazingly comming up with constructive new arguments and continuing to lower yourself by telling me to get a life and all that other ...
Bottom line is youre pushing your own agenda - trying to desperately defend your point of view - funny that actually no research knows the long term effects and you even said that yourself. And at the same time you're calling me uneducated - bullcrap talking whatever...
Meanwhile all I'm saying is that i'm chosing a little cleaner and more natural fun and lifestyle - you don't like it it's your problem - if you feel threatened and offended by me chosing that lifestyle it's your problem as well not mine...
All your arguments are more of a 5 year old IMO..."you did this and that so you have no right to say this and that..." blah blah
And by the way there IS an easy way to tell if a person is on drugs or not all you need to do is look into that person's eyes - you just need to know what to look for....but OOOOOOOHHHHH you must have known that with all that HUGE research you've done on the issue :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Anyways stop pulling me back into this argument I really don't have any interest to argue about this anymore because it won't go anywhere anyway |
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| mot10n |
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| starsearcher |
| quote: | Originally posted by mot10n
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:haha: :stongue: :stongue:
So evil...but true :wtf: |
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| DigiNut |
| quote: | Originally posted by starsearcher
Anyways stop pulling me back into this argument I really don't have any interest to argue about this anymore because it won't go anywhere anyway |
Then kindly SHUT THE UP, since not only are your arguments crap but now your grammar and spelling are starting to suffer too. I've really tried not to make this personal but telling me I sound like a 5-year-old? Dude READ YOUR sometime, I've actually been congratulated for socking it to you in some of my posts, YOUR posts on the other hand look like a pathetic whiney kid throwing a tantrum because he can't get what he wants!
Do us all a favour and DON'T REPLY. You've got absolutely no points to make, but you keep replying anyway with your bull because you just HAVE to have the last word. Late-breaking news: having the last word doesn't mean when it's nonsensical drivel! |
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| mot10n |
| quote: | Originally posted by mot10n
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ok i won't do it again :p |
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