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Breaking News: Isreal and Lebanon at War? (pg. 63)
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| Purple |
I am sick and tired of this 'terrorism/terrorist' bull, after seeing so many innocent people dying after 9/11, twenty times the number of people dead in 9/11 deserve to die more in US.
This world needs a in new world order, people and countries at top have become corrupted. This cannot and will not sustain like this for too long.
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| BiG-_BoSS |
| quote: | Originally posted by Purple
I am sick and tired of this 'terrorism/terrorist' bull, after seeing so many innocent people dying after 9/11, twenty times the number of people dead in 9/11 deserve to die more in US.
This world needs a in new world order, people and countries at top have become corrupted. This cannot and will not sustain like this for too long.
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I agree with you that countries are corrupt and that we need a new world order one that allows for people around the world to prosper economically and allows people to feel safe and causes stability around the world. However, such an order won't come until people wake up and see what is happening. |
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| Purple |
| quote: | Originally posted by BiG-_BoSS
I agree with you that countries are corrupt and that we need a new world order one that allows for people around the world to prosper economically and allows people to feel safe and causes stability around the world. However, such an order won't come until people wake up and see what is happening. |
People are tired of protesting, they did a lot during Iraq, EU united, whatelse.. France, Germany, India, China, Russia, UN..everyone protested... but US has turned to be such a dog that it dosent matter to them what world says or believes in ... people are tired of protesting..and they know that it wont lead to any change in US policies...
That is why you dont see anyone protesting this time in Lebanon.. noone cares anymore,,,they just know they are not in Middle East and they wont be next..they know they are safe.... its only Muslim countries that are protesting... and when they do so ... they are labelled terrorist nation, a in axis of evil and ... this is all bull... Bush needs to die..
Its the people in US, Israel need to wake up and see what they are doing to other people, to this world..they need to stand up against this.. orelse nothing will change.. |
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| jonSun |
| Luckily for the Israeli's the U.N. doenst have the same thinking as the IDF, or the U.N. would be bombing the outta Israel in revenge & to thier 40 kills for thier 4 deaths. |
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| Shakka |
| quote: | "Demanding “Peace”
By Yisrael Ne’eman
From Saturday afternoon through Sunday morning it was the turn of the anti-war activists to get into the act with demonstrations in Tel Aviv involving about 1,000 people. Most were from the Communist Party (Arab and Jewish membership) and Arab Lists. The basic message is, “We want peace and an immediate cease-fire. In the end there will be negotiations so let’s begin now and save all the human suffering.” Sounds very reasonable, supposedly – until everything is put into context.
Two weeks ago with no provocation Hezbollah opened fire, killed eight soldiers, abducted another two and Israel is expected to negotiate for their release.
Over the past six years at least, the Islamists were gearing up for a major war. With the opening of the attack, the extreme Jewish Left and a good portion of Israeli Arabs talked “peace”. Prof. Ilan Pappe, one of the most rabidly anti-Israel, pro-Palestinian academics anywhere appeared on TV in a panel discussion to condemn Israeli actions and demand “peace”. During the debate he was forced to admit that his solution to the problem was the elimination of the Jewish State. Another Jew, MK Dov Hanin
(Communist) was not far behind in another media encounter the next day. Demanding “negotiations and peace” is just a euphemism for a pro-Hezbollah, anti-Israel stance.
Calling for peace, negotiations and the immediate halt to hostilities in the midst of Israeli military activities is the best way to ensure a Hezbollah victory. The small minority of extremist Jews are the façade for many Israeli Arabs and their elected leaders like Arab Nationalist Movement MK Ahmed Tibi (formerly a top advisor to Yasir Arafat) and Balad MK Azmi Bashara whose sympathies lay with the Hezbollah, to hide behind when taking staunchly anti-Israel positions and projecting them as perfectly innocent of any foreign influence. The above mentioned supported the Palestinian Authority and the Arafat initiated conflict against Israel in the fall of 2000 and further encouraged Israeli Arabs to take a radical anti-Israel stand which led to ten days of rioting in October the same year. Then they screamed for Israeli concessions to Palestinian demands, not for peace.
After all, at the outset it seemed the Palestinians gained the upper hand. In short, they hypocritically demand peace when it suits their interests.
Nor do they represent the overwhelming majority of Israeli Arabs as many would like to claim. In a poll done by Teleseker in the Hebrew daily Ma’ariv at the end of last week 95% of Israel’s overall population considered the government's response to be “justified and correct” while only 4% objected. Israel’s Arabic speaking sector comprises 19-20% of the whole. There were claims of discrimination in Nazareth concerning the safety of Israel’s Arab population in the face of rocket attacks after two small children were killed by Hezbollah shelling. True, the city does not have the shelters necessary and there was no warning of an attack. Although it does not absolve the state of its responsibility, there was no expectation that Hezbollah would fire at Nazareth and the sirens did not sound because they were disconnected by the mayor’s office so as not to be heard on Memorial Day for Israel’s fallen soldiers. Mayor Jareesi is completely guilty for the alarm system failure, but no Arab leader will say so. The father of the two children blamed the State of Israel for their deaths and declared them “shahids” (martyrs) for the cause.
Hassan Nasrallah is in the clear.
On the other hand there are those who condemn Hezbollah openly, but they are not the Israeli Arab leadership. When a Christian Arab carpenter from Iblin was killed by a rocket in Haifa while at work, everyone made clear Nasrallah’s responsibility and refused to speak of martyrdom. In Marar yesterday a Moslem teenager was killed and it seems her parents are in a quandary as whether to consider her a “shahid” or not.
Israeli Arabs are often caught in a very difficult situation as a result of conflicting national, cultural and religious loyalties. But this does not absolve anyone of straight thinking. The moderates are silent for fear of incurring the wrath of the radicals and their emissaries as represented by the more vocal leadership. How many Christian or even Moslem Arabs support Nasrallah’s Khomeinist “Party of Allah” in its demands for Islamic Shi’ite world domination? Or are there those who just want to damage the Jewish State as much as possible.
Like most, Israeli Arabs will go with the winner. The conflict with the Palestinians and the rise of the radical Hamas, coupled with the development of the Hezbollah terror army, its mini-state in south Lebanon and its challenge to Israel and the central government in Beirut emboldened the Islamic extremists of all stripes and forced Israeli Arab moderates to take a back seat.
The larger a clear cut victory the IDF will obtain against the Hezbollah, the greater the impact there will be on the Arab political leadership in Israel.
The provocative and notorious anti-Israel positions taken by a few Jews is not worth emulating if Arabs in Israel want their long overdue full integration into the state. Dealing the Hezbollah and Hamas a decisive defeat will have a moderating influence on Israeli Arabs. Such an impact will be beneficial to Jews and Arabs alike and certainly encourage the government and state apparatus to rectify many of the inequalities claimed to be suffered by the Arab community.
Israeli Arab support for the Hezbollah, whether overt or otherwise, will only lead to more suspicion and alienation from mainstream Israeli society.
"Media War" Victims
Thousands of the poorest, least fortunate Israelis from the Galilee and Haifa are living in bomb shelters for most of the past two weeks. These are the elderly, the immigrants with no relatives in the center of the country or the Negev, the handicapped and in general those on the bottom rungs of the socio-economic ladder who cannot even afford a bus ticket. Not only are many of the shelters poorly equipped but in certain cases there is a basic lack of food in addition to the sweltering conditions of mid-July.
CNN and the foreign media have finally done human interest stories about Israel’s “humanitarian crisis”.
It is almost as if the government (and right wing
opposition) are breathing a sigh of relief. Israel can now compete in the “media war” and prove that we too have a mass of unfortunate civilian victims of the conflict besides the direct casualties of the Hezbollah rocket attacks. No doubt that the Hezbollah is responsible for all the suffering on both sides.
With that point now made, we should all get past the cynical usage of hungry bomb shelter residents as our front line commandos in winning the “media war”.
Is there any reason they cannot be supplied with food, clothing, fans or where possible even air conditioners by the civil and military authorities responsible?
Justice and the social cohesion of the State of Israel (greatly undermined) and the Jewish People in the aftermath of the war are of much greater importance than showing off “our casualties” in the media war. |
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| DJFreaq |
| quote: | Originally posted by Paulie
-55 out of 56 bridges destroyed
-international airport destroyed
-the whole south of beirut turned to rubble
-over 800,000 people displaced
-over 400 innocent civilians killed (over 30% children and two thirds of them familes)
-whole villages destroyed.
-Every single major road has been carpeted bombed
-major oil spil causing Enviromental catastrophe
-IDF bombed 40% of Lebanons oil supplies.
-every port bombed
-hospitals bombed
-every petrol station in the south bombed
-thousands of civilain homes destroyed
-red cross amblances bombed
The facts speak for themselves...For what? 2 kidnapped soldiers? The israelis have a lot to answer for. The first being war crimes. |
It's beautiful isn't it?
Maybe Israel watched the movie Swordfish too many times and are taking it to heart.
They kidnap two of their guys. Israel levels a country!
It's beautiful!
| quote: | Originally posted by jonSun
Luckily for the Israeli's the U.N. doenst have the same thinking as the IDF, or the U.N. would be bombing the outta Israel in revenge & to thier 40 kills for thier 4 deaths. |
It is unfortunate isn't it. I'd much rather see the entire region implode in on itself. Total self-destruction is what that region needs.
The middle east needs to burn on a funeral pyre and then something better can be born from its ashes!
Or at least people should learn to get along :( |
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| BiG-_BoSS |
| What do you expect from the Israelis? When you tell them they did something wrong they will go back to how they had it bad during the concentration camps and how 6million of them died innocently and then they will go and say they didn't start the fight it was the 'terrorists'. |
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| Fir3start3r |
| If you think its all 'just for two guys', methinks you need to dig a little deeper than MSM headlines... |
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| BiG-_BoSS |
| quote: | Originally posted by Fir3start3r
If you think its all 'just for two guys', methinks you need to dig a little deeper than MSM headlines... |
methinks you need to dig a little deeper than a bias source of information..... |
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| jonSun |
| quote: | Originally posted by Fir3start3r
If you think its all 'just for two guys', methinks you need to dig a little deeper than MSM headlines... |
Yep exactly. If it were just about 2 arrested soldiers the IDF would have negotiated & had thier guys back home by now. Instead they bombed Lebanon back 50 years. |
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| BiG-_BoSS |
| quote: | Originally posted by jonSun
Yep exactly. If it were just about 2 arrested soldiers the IDF would have negotiated & had thier guys back home by now. Instead they bombed Lebanon back 50 years. |
Me thinks a greaseball should restrain himself from posting in the PDD forum.:D |
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| jonSun |
| quote: | Originally posted by BiG-_BoSS
Me thinks a greaseball should restrain himself from posting in the PDD forum.:D |
hey hey, im not a full blown whop. Plus i just took a shower, so i got about 20 minutes before the grease starts to automatically secrete from my skin. :p |
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