Originally posted by Krypton
Why is reporting from the Gaza Strip slanted in one direction? Who is getting bombed and blockaded here? It isn't Israel. In fact, Israel has not allowed any foreign reporters into the Gaza, so in fact, Israel is the one slanting the news coming out from the war zone. Lucky for al-Jazeera, they already had a few reporters in the war zone before it erupted, so they are the only ones broadcasting from inside Gaza, lucky for them, and lucky for their viewers who get to see the reality of war, without it being censored in the interests of Zionist aparteid.
GAAAAAHH! stop acting like Hamas didn't provoke this knowing damn well what would happen! Israelis aren't blood thirsty zombies. They do not call for the destruction of the Palestinians in their charter like Hamas does for all Israelis. And stop going back to the blockade point as the end all be all for justification.
DJ Damerchi
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Originally posted by The17sss
GAAAAAHH! stop acting like Hamas didn't provoke this knowing damn well what would happen! Israelis aren't blood thirsty zombies. They do not call for the destruction of the Palestinians in their charter like Hamas does for all Israelis. And stop going back to the blockade point as the end all be all for justification.
"this " which was indeed provoked by Hamas has been condemned by the UN.
Why don't the staunch Israel supporters drop the Hamas is ed Ahmadinejad is ed arguements for a second(we get it), and come up with some defenses for how they are ignoring the UN
and by ignoring, i mean blowing up their .
The17sss
"Elite" Hamas unit destroyed, with little effort on the IDF's part-
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The so-called "Iranian Unit" of Hamas has been destroyed, according to Gaza sources cited Thursday by the Haaretz daily. The sources said most of the unit's 100 members were killed in fighting in the Zeytun neighborhood of Gaza City.
The terrorists had been trained in infantry tactics, the use of anti-tank missiles and the detonation of explosives, among other skills, by the Iranian Revolutionary Guard at Hizbullah camps in Lebanon's Beka’a Valley, as well as sites in Iran.
Down goes the prestige of Iran's Revolutionary Guard, as well as Hezbollah. If their best can't stand up for a week against the IDF, then their own enemies will look at their military as much less of a deterrent against action.
Ha'aretz also reports that Hamas badly miscalculated the effect of their renewed missile attacks on Israel.
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Two captured terrorists interviewed by Maariv/NRG say that Hamas was not expecting Israel's response to the escalation in missile attacks on Israeli targets that preceded Operation Cast Lead. One of them, a 52-year-old victim of a premature detonation who had already done time in an Israeli jail, said, "Hamas took a gamble. We thought, at worst Israel will come and do something from the air - something superficial. They'll come in and go out. We never thought that we would reach the point where fear will swallow the heart and the feet will want to flee. You [Israel] are fighting like you fought in '48. What got into you all of a sudden?"
Really, what got into Israel was the narrowing options for dealing with Hamas. They've tried just about everything, including cease fires and the aforementioned air strikes, with no success. Invasion and absolute confrontation was about all they had left short of complete surrender. If Hamas leadership had paid attention, they might have realized this.
-Ed Morrissey
The17sss
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Originally posted by DJ Damerchi
"this " which was indeed provoked by Hamas has been condemned by the UN.
Why don't the staunch Israel supporters drop the Hamas is ed Ahmadinejad is ed arguements for a second(we get it), and come up with some defenses for how they are ignoring the UN
and by ignoring, i mean blowing up their .
The UN also initially denied that Hamas operated from its UNRWA school in the earlier shelling, but eventually changed its tune after the IDF provided videotape from previous attacks at the school. Israel certainly could have made a mistake... we made a similar mistake in our bombing of Serbia when we struck the Chinese embassy... but how can you dismiss outright the notion that Hamas launched mortars or rockets from the site?
Krypton
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Originally posted by The17sss
GAAAAAHH! stop acting like Hamas didn't provoke this knowing damn well what would happen! Israelis aren't blood thirsty zombies. They do not call for the destruction of the Palestinians in their charter like Hamas does for all Israelis. And stop going back to the blockade point as the end all be all for justification.
Stop acting like the blockade didn't provoke knowing damn well what would happen! LOL, stop going back to the blockade? What? Am I now forbidden to propose a specific argument you simply do not like? LOL...Blockades are an act of war and so whatever force enacts such war moves should expect a protracted response from the defensive nation.
jonSun
Actually I think the rockets started up again after Israel broke the cease fire agreement.
tathi
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Originally posted by Krypton
According to Palestinian Ministry of Health and UN figures as of 12 January, 1,024 Palestinians have been killed and 3,860 have been injured. Of those killed, at least 670 have been reported as civilians and among them are: 4 UN and 13 medical workers, 4 journalists, 311 children, 78 women, and 97 elderly people. Of the 4,250 injured: 1,497 are children, 626 are women, and 30 are medical workers. Among the civilians killed in the Gaza Strip were also two foreigners, a Ukrainian woman and her child. The number of children fatalities is said to have increased by 250% since the beginning of the ground operation on 3 January.
A total of 15 people had been killed by Qassam rockets since attacks began in 2001.
Disgusting.
its abhorrent, i think more than anything this quote by Nietzche sums up the gradual corrosion of the Israeli collective psyches' decent human dignity over the last 50 years:
"Whoever battles with monsters had better see that he himself does not turn into a monster. And if you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you."
its scary to imagine what will happen in another 50 years...
The17sss
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Originally posted by Krypton
Stop acting like the blockade didn't provoke knowing damn well what would happen! LOL, stop going back to the blockade? What? Am I now forbidden to propose a specific argument you simply do not like? LOL...Blockades are an act of war and so whatever force enacts such war moves should expect a protracted response from the defensive nation.
No, it's always the centerpiece of your rationalizations for Hamas being the victim and never in the wrong, and it's a weak argument. Just before this latest ordeal, Israel reopened a checkpoint to allow humanitarian aid to reenter Gaza. It then closed the point of entry after again being targeted by Gazan rockets. Israel's prime minister issued a stern final warning to Hamas that unless it stopped the rockets, there would be a full-scale military response.
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In the past months, a shaky cease-fire, organized by Egypt, was in effect. Hamas agreed to stop the rockets and Israel agreed to stop taking military action against Hamas terrorists in the Gaza Strip. The cease-fire itself was morally dubious and legally asymmetrical.
Israel, in effect, was saying to Hamas: If you stop engaging in the war crime of targeting our innocent civilians, we will stop engaging in the entirely lawful military acts of targeting your terrorists. Under the cease-fire, Israel reserved the right to engage in self-defense actions such as attacking terrorists who were in the course of firing rockets at its civilians.
-Alan Dershowitz
I'm sure it pains your Jew hating eyes to read words written by a Jew, because you'll just scream "Zionist propoganda! halalalalalalalaala!" like always. But try to get through this OP-ED even though it's written by the evil hands of the Jew scum you so despise. :rolleyes:
DERSHOWITZ: Hamas' dead baby strategy
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The Hamas "dead baby" strategy - to cause as many civilian casualties as possible by firing its deadly rockets from schools and densely populated areas - is producing understandable outrage around the world. What is not understandable is why the outrage is directed against Israel, which is a victim of this strategy, rather than against Hamas, which is its perpetrator. Hamas knew exactly what it was doing when it fired more than 6,000 rockets at Israeli kindergartens, elementary schools and playgrounds from behind its own children. It was playing Russian roulette with the lives of Israeli children in order to provoke a defensive response from Israel.
Hamas knew that Israel, like any democracy, would have to take whatever military action was necessary to stop the rockets. As Barack Obama put it when he visited Sderot, a town that had been victimized by more than 1,000 rockets and several deaths: "If somebody was sending rockets into my house where my two daughters sleep at night, I'm going to do everything in my power to stop that. And I would expect Israelis to do the same thing." Hamas also knew that Israel could not stop the rockets aimed at its children without accidentally killing some Palestinian children because Hamas was using Palestinian children as human shields for its rockets. Despite its best efforts to avoid killing civilians - Israel gains nothing from such "collateral damage" and loses much-Israeli missiles have killed dozens of innocent children who were deliberately placed in harm's way by Hamas terrorists.
Hamas also knew that the media would show the dead Palestinian children around the world and cause outrage to be directed against Israel for causing their deaths. Indeed, it had its camera crews out and ready to film and transmit every gruesome image of every dead Palestinian child. Well not quite every Palestinian child! When a Hamas rocket aimed at Israeli children misfired and killed two Palestinian children, Hamas censored all images of these dead Palestinian children, because they were killed directly by Hamas rockets rather than indirectly by Hamas using them as human shields. That is the way Hamas manipulates the media coverage of its gruesome "dead baby" strategy.
The media, of course, serves as Hamas' facilitator. I am not suggesting that the media not show these horrible images, but rather that they should present them with a critical perspective, indicating the actual cause and the real culprit - namely Hamas and its cynical double war crime strategy of targeting Israeli children and hiding behind Palestinian children. A cartoon that is making its way around the internet does a better job of explaining the Hamas strategy than any photograph or video. It shows an Israeli soldier and a Hamas terrorist shooting at each other. The Israeli soldier is standing in front of a baby carriage, protecting the baby. The Hamas terrorist is firing from behind a baby carriage, using the baby as a shield. That is the reality.
The international community - most especially the United Nations, which has done nothing about genocides committed by Muslims - is accusing Israel of "war crimes" for defending its civilians against Hamas war crimes. This too is part of the Hamas strategy which the United Nations facilitates.
If the media and the international community continue to play into the dirty hands of Hamas terrorists, its terrorism will continue and spread. Why not? It's a win-win strategy for terrorists and a lose-lose strategy for democracies. Hamas knows that by attacking Israeli civilians, they can secure one of two results: Israel will do nothing and Hamas will succeed in killing Israeli children; or Israel will respond and inevitably kill some Palestinian children, thereby provoking the ire of the media, the international community and ultimately decent people all around the world who are revolted by the cynically manipulated images of dead children.
The Hamas strategy may now be spreading to Lebanon where twice in several days, rockets have targeted Israeli civilian areas. Hezbollah, which denies responsibility for these rockets, actually originated this strategy in the summer of 2006, when it provoked Israel into trying to defend its citizens and its kidnapped soldiers. Other nations in the world are susceptible to similar strategies, as the United States learned, when it went after the Taliban and Al Qaeda in Afghanistan and discovered that they too use civilians as human shields.
Unless this "dead baby" strategy is exposed and rejected in the marketplace of morality, it's coming to a theater (or school or hospital) near you.
tathi
Lemonad
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Originally posted by CHRles
Once there's a big enough stranglehold on the terrorist-loving Iranian government
I think everyone is sick of your stupid comments. What makes someone a terrorist because you keep saying Iran is but not Israel. The actions Israel has done in the past week or so has never been done by Iran. Iran has never bombed innocent civilians and using white phosperus on the civilians in the area. If Iran done the same thing Israel done then it would be called an terrorist act by retards like you.
Israel bombed a school, Iran has never sunk that low. Not to also mention they also denied food aid to gaza, so Israel wants them all to die, even the children.
Israel is the real terrorist, you blind scumbag.
Krypton
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Originally posted by The17sss
No, it's always the centerpiece of your rationalizations for Hamas being the victim and never in the wrong, and it's a weak argument. Just before this latest ordeal, Israel reopened a checkpoint to allow humanitarian aid to reenter Gaza. It then closed the point of entry after again being targeted by Gazan rockets. Israel's prime minister issued a stern final warning to Hamas that unless it stopped the rockets, there would be a full-scale military response.
So you think a blockade is not an act of war? LOL. Is the earth also flat? You want the Palestinians to gravel at the feet of Israel in humiliation and accept national disgrace. It appears that just won't happen. And, news flash, Israel broke the ceasefire...
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I'm sure it pains your Jew hating eyes to read words written by a Jew, because you'll just scream "Zionist propoganda! halalalalalalalaala!" like always. But try to get through this OP-ED even though it's written by the evil hands of the Jew scum you so despise. :rolleyes:
DERSHOWITZ: Hamas' dead baby strategy
Now this is a great example of neocon-Zionist bull. Anyone who disagrees with you is an anti-Semite/anti-Jew. News flash, this pathetic insult does not faze me...
It appears you'v posted an op-ed. Propaganda, if you didn't know, was the reporting of one point of view, but passed on as news.
Krypton
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Originally posted by tathi
its abhorrent, i think more than anything this quote by Nietzche sums up the gradual corrosion of the Israeli collective psyches' decent human dignity over the last 50 years:
"Whoever battles with monsters had better see that he himself does not turn into a monster. And if you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you."
its scary to imagine what will happen in another 50 years...
