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Israeli air strikes on Gaza kill 192 (pg. 46)
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Krypton
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Arabs: Israel ammo in Gaza had depleted uranium

VIENNA, Austria – Arab nations accused Israel on Monday of blasting Gaza with ammunition containing depleted uranium and urged the International Atomic Energy Agency to investigate reports that traces of it had been found in victims of the shelling.

In a letter on behalf of Arab ambassadors accredited in Austria, Prince Mansour Al-Saoud, the Saudi Ambassador, expressed "our deep concern regarding the information ... that traces of depleted uranium have been found in Palestinian victims."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090119...ear_israel_gaza

buitre
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Originally posted by Krypton
Land, nothing but the bare minimums get in and that ain't . Air, Israel controls the bloody air space. Sea, Israel's navy ain't chillin out there for nothing. I thought you would know this stuff by now. But it's cool, it's not your country being blockaded so you have no idea what's going on.

Didn't I just said "we don't want another Karine A, do we?" ?? You're supposed to click on the text saying "Karine A", you know...

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Originally posted by Krypton
Point out where I was wrong.........................

I emphasized that a "blockade" is done on ENEMY areas.

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Originally posted by Krypton That's fine, close the damn border. But at least allow them to conduct commerce and have a semblance of an economy.

No, thank you. The West Bank has nice economy - Fatah doesn't want the destruction of Israel (anymore).
I mean do you really think that it's a normal situation to have financial relations with people who elected a party that wants you dead?!
I guess you've never noticed that when Hamas and Fatah (with whom we can somehow make peace) shared a gov't Israel didn't close the borders with Gaza. Despite the rockets and mortar shells. Only when the gov't split (Hamas to Gaza and Fatah to the West Bank) - Israel closed the border with Gaza, where the threatening party of the two is in charge.

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Originally posted by Krypton
You'r more than welcome to provide a counter-argument other than "huh", if you don't want a smart ass comment from yours truly...;)

Is this what you wanted me to write: "what did you mean, Krypton?"
God...
buitre
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Originally posted by DJ Damerchi
King david hotel bombings wasn't terrorism. ?


It was, but it was of a different kind. Killing people wasn't the goal. Irgun members wanred the hotel occupants way before the bomb exploded.

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For years, former members of Irgun claimed that the British did know about the attack and that warnings had been sent. For years the British denied that this was true. However, in 1979 evidence was presented to the House of Commons in London that Britain had received a credible warning. A former British Army officer based at the hotel admitted that he had heard other officers joking about a threat that had been made to the hotel. In later years, when Menachem Begin had moved into legitimate politics, he claimed that Irgun had sent a warning directly to the hotel but the person who sent the warning was told:
"We don’t take orders from the Jews."

http://www.historylearningsite.co.u...david_hotel.htm

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On July 22, 1946, the calls were made. The call into the hotel was apparently received and ignored. Begin quotes one British official who supposedly refused to evacuate the building, saying: "We don't take orders from the Jews." As a result, when the bombs exploded, the casualty toll was high: a total of 91 killed and 45 injured. Among the casualties were 15 Jews. Few people in the hotel proper were injured by the blast.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org...King_David.html

Don't get me wrong - that was terrible. No one should do such things. But again, killing innocents wasn't the goal.
DJ Damerchi
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Originally posted by buitre
It was, but it was of a different kind. Killing people wasn't the goal. Irgun members wanred the hotel occupants way before the bomb exploded.


http://www.historylearningsite.co.u...david_hotel.htm


http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org...King_David.html

Don't get me wrong - that was terrible. No one should do such things. But again, killing innocents wasn't the goal.


So what, Al Qaeda warned the US that an attack is coming, does that exempt it from qualifying as a terrorist act as well?

Menachem Begin and Irgun was indeed terrorism and they were dissolved into the IDF. you must know that at one point when they were refusing to integrate supply ships were being bombed-there was internal terrorism as well.

Kach and kahanist movements?
Gush Emunim movement?

Jewish terrorism has existed, sprinkle coat it all you want, it doesnt change what has happened.
Krypton
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Originally posted by buitre
Didn't I just said "we don't want another Karine A, do we?" ?? You're supposed to click on the text saying "Karine A", you know...


Yea, I know, the Palestinians aren't allowed to defend themselves, I get it...

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I emphasized that a "blockade" is done on ENEMY areas.


Again, point out where I was wrong...


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No, thank you. The West Bank has nice economy - Fatah doesn't want the destruction of Israel (anymore).
I mean do you really think that it's a normal situation to have financial relations with people who elected a party that wants you dead?!
I guess you've never noticed that when Hamas and Fatah (with whom we can somehow make peace) shared a gov't Israel didn't close the borders with Gaza. Despite the rockets and mortar shells. Only when the gov't split (Hamas to Gaza and Fatah to the West Bank) - Israel closed the border with Gaza, where the threatening party of the two is in charge.


No they don't. There are over 500 check points and barriers in the West Bank. Additionally, there are roads which are for Israelis only, ON INTERNATIONAL RECOGNIZED PALESTINIAN LAND. If relying on international aid equals a "nice economy" to you, I'd have to question your understanding of what a good economy really is. Israel can close its border. FINE. Haven't you already guessed that I have no problem with that? It's the blockade which I and the international community outside of the USA condemns.

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Is this what you wanted me to write: "what did you mean, Krypton?"

God...


I took it to mean sarcasm as your posts are rife with it.
The17sss
Now that the Israelis and Hamas have mostly stopped fighting each other, the Iranians will surprise no one by attempting to rearm Hamas with better weapons. Hamas refuses to acknowledge this as "smuggling", but whatever it's called, Israel intends to stop it before Hamas can hit Tel Aviv:
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Iran has renewed efforts to supply advanced weaponry to Hamas and the IDF is concerned that the terror group will try to smuggle long-range Fajr missiles into the Gaza Strip.

According to the latest intelligence assessments, Iran, which was responsible for writing Hamas's military doctrine, has already launched an internal probe to determine how the plan it had created for Hamas failed to cause more IDF casualties.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satell...icle%2FShowFull

If Hamas succeeds, they can hit Tel Aviv. Let's hope the Iranians have as much success as they did with the Iranian Unit in Gaza this month.
Lemonad
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Originally posted by The17sss
Now that the Israelis and Hamas have mostly stopped fighting each other, the Iranians will surprise no one by attempting to rearm Hamas with better weapons. Hamas refuses to acknowledge this as "smuggling", but whatever it's called, Israel intends to stop it before Hamas can hit Tel Aviv:

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satell...icle%2FShowFull

If Hamas succeeds, they can hit Tel Aviv. Let's hope the Iranians have as much success as they did with the Iranian Unit in Gaza this month.


I'm sure America is doing the same thing with rearming Israel right about now.
Kinezi
This Korean guy visited Gaza to see whats left, and he narrates his tale by saying he is 'heartbroken' at the total devastation and anhilation of people and their lives.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/usTop...I52680720090121

We have new recruits now to fight Israeil war lords and terrorists in Israeil with Weapons of Mass Destruction.
hardcore trancer
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Originally posted by The17sss
Now that the Israelis and Hamas have mostly stopped fighting each other, the Iranians will surprise no one by attempting to rearm Hamas with better weapons. Hamas refuses to acknowledge this as "smuggling", but whatever it's called, Israel intends to stop it before Hamas can hit Tel Aviv:

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satell...icle%2FShowFull

If Hamas succeeds, they can hit Tel Aviv. Let's hope the Iranians have as much success as they did with the Iranian Unit in Gaza this month.



Hmm I guess we should go attack them and kill as many as we can,because we all know that method always works.:rolleyes:
hardcore trancer
It is sad how Obama didnt mention a thing about all those dead people in Gaza today in any of his speaches.Then again he is another American president and has to follow the rules of Washington.:o

Fir3start3r
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Originally posted by Magnetonium


Bwahahahahahahah ... this is too funny.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7836660.stm



Retarded. Especially when its obvious for Israel of the nature of Hamas, yet it still uses disproportionate force to kill over 350 children and 100 women (innocent civilians), along with other people. And achieved little if anything. I doubt that Hamas took a bit hit. Now that Israel is withdrawing, Hamas is retaking its lost positions!

Expect more of this in the future:

http://switch5.castup.net/frames/20...=214&ar=1468wmv

Graduation Ceremony in Hamas Kindergarten VIDEO


Palestinian propoganda at it's best - like they had ANY pull in Israel's decision to leave...:rolleyes:

We all know Hamas is going to simply fill in the gaps and start firing their rockets again...
Fir3start3r
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Originally posted by hardcore trancer
It is sad how Obama didnt mention a thing about all those dead people in Gaza today in any of his speaches.Then again he is another American president and has to follow the rules of Washington.:o


Yea because you know, that's exactly wtf people want to hear during a presidential inauguration!

/id-10-t :rolleyes:
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