|
Israeli air strikes on Gaza kill 192 (pg. 9)
|
View this Thread in Original format
| Magnetonium |
| quote: | Originally posted by LazFX
its not what is said but implied.
the years lurking and years I have been a member of this board has given me all the examples I need.
Before expressing optimism about what might be, let's look at what is. As the New York Times rightly suggests this weekend, the Hamas party platform, articulated in the 1988 Hamas Charter, provides a useful prism to understand the mentality of Hamas (a.k.a. The Islamic Resistance Movement). Just read the Hamas Charter and it will leave you utterly depressed about the prospects for Middle East peace.
|
Holly ... . :wtf: :eyes: Thanks for bringing this to my attention. |
|
|
| LazFX |
| quote: | Originally posted by Magnetonium
Holly ... . :wtf: :eyes: Thanks for bringing this to my attention. |
I try comrade Magnetonium. I try. ;) |
|
|
| DJ Damerchi |
| yep...Hamas is ed-i thought this was a given |
|
|
| Fir3start3r |
| quote: | Originally posted by LazFX
its not what is said but implied.
the years lurking and years I have been a member of this board has given me all the examples I need.
Before expressing optimism about what might be, let's look at what is. As the New York Times rightly suggests this weekend, the Hamas party platform, articulated in the 1988 Hamas Charter, provides a useful prism to understand the mentality of Hamas (a.k.a. The Islamic Resistance Movement). Just read the Hamas Charter and it will leave you utterly depressed about the prospects for Middle East peace.
| quote: |
Here are some of the lowpoints:
* Hamas is an arm of the Muslim Brotherhood (Art. 2);
* Hamas' goal is Jihad and the death of Jews (Art. 7);
* Jihad is the path of Hamas, and death for Allah its most sublime belief (Art. 8);
* The land of Palestine is an Islamic inheritance (Art. 11);
* All Muslims are duty-bound to commit Jihad against Israel (Art. 12);
* Peace is not an option (Art. 13);
* Muslims everywhere are duty-bound to liberate Palestine (Art. 14);
* Muslims must study the enemy, looking for weak spots (Art. 16);
* Western culture is a Zionist plot to distance women from Islam (Art. 17)
* Women must train their children to become Jihad fighters (Art. 18);
* Enemies rule the world through intermediaries such as the United Nations (Art. 22);
* The PLO is too secular (Art. 27);
* All Arab states must support Jihad (Art. 28);
* All Muslim leaders must support Jihad (Art. 30);
* Hamas cares about human rights and religious toleration, provided all other religions live in the shadow of Islam (Art. 31);
* Peace accords are treacherous schemes of Zionists (Art. 32);
* Jihad will not end until liberation is complete (Art. 33); and
* Palestine is the navel of the earth and Jihad is our answer to the Christian Crusades (Art. 34).
|
At least in my view if one supports Hamas in any way shape or form, ie; on this board, one accepts Hamas' platform
That is why I have always denounced Israel and Hamas in this cluster ... both of them are at fault and both share the blame,
but some on this board may support Hamas just cause its the "in thing" to do....
my opinion among 1000000s in this world that we all have to live in |
And people wonder why I don't like Hamas...:rolleyes:
This is what you get for ass-u-me-ing everyone knew what Hamas' charter was...
Someone care to point out ANYTHING is Isreal's charter that reciprocates Hamas's? Anyone? Beuler...
/yea...didn't think so... |
|
|
| tathi |
| quote: | Originally posted by jerZ07002
What does it matter if israel kills 300 militants in response to the death of 1 israeli civilian? It would be entirely appropriate for israel to eliminate every person who threatens its citizens. As a result, the death of 300 palestinians on its face means nothing. If israel kills 300 militants in response to the death of one israeli civilian that is entirely proportional. Once the civilian death toll starts increasing that when proportionality becomes an issue. |
Good thing Hezbollah showed proportional restraint in the Israeli Lebanon war.
Israel Military Deaths:
120 dead
Israel Civilians Deaths:
43 dead |
|
|
| jerZ07002 |
| quote: | Originally posted by tathi
Good thing Hezbollah showed proportional restraint in the Israeli Lebanon war.
Israel Military Deaths:
120 dead
Israel Civilians Deaths:
43 dead |
what's your point? |
|
|
| guerra-monstru |
| quote: | Originally posted by jerZ07002
i guess that's a good reason to kill the children as well. |
LOL lets kill your children and see what happens to you. |
|
|
| DJ Damerchi |
| quote: | Originally posted by tathi
Good thing Hezbollah showed proportional restraint in the Israeli Lebanon war.
Israel Military Deaths:
120 dead
Israel Civilians Deaths:
43 dead |
Im no supporter of of what Israel did in Lebanon by anymeans, but I dont think any restraint was excercised by Hezbollah, they just didnt have enough access to the civilian population centers, whereas they engaged in close quarter battles with the IDF(IOF) in their own turf where airstrikes couldn't be called in...hence the 3:1 ratio
...Mosaad/IDF will pick random infrastructure targets. from that day on they wait and twiddle their thumbs for an infringement that will be "acceptable" to retalliate in such a manner and they will somehow still be seen as the victim by the international community. then they engage in a jerk circle. |
|
|
| jerZ07002 |
| quote: | Originally posted by guerra-monstru
LOL lets kill your children and see what happens to you. |
i'm all for it, kill all zero of them. i actually beat the hamas to it, i paid for my gf to get an abortion when i was 19. |
|
|
| Arbiter |
Well, it's a start. I have little confidence that they will go far enough to actually change anything, however. Far more innocents will die for Israel's restraint than ever will for their excess.
Most all involved are fools; as far as I am concerned they may proceed expeditiously to their graves. |
|
|
|
|
