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enydo
Wow, the people who are pro are vehemently pro, this makes absolutely no sense to me. You are doing something to someone, that really is just unnecessary, without them having any say at all.

If it were up to me, I wish my parents would have just left it as is, but that's not the way things worked out. Oh well I guess, my son is not getting cut, no way no how.
Gauss
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Originally posted by tubularbills
no, there is no purpose to it. it's an extra flap of skin. you see what's under neath it? MORE SKIN.

if you cut off your eyelids, then you have nothing to protect your eyes.

if you cut off your foreskin, YOU STILL HAVE SKIN TO PROTECT YOUR SHAFT.

comparing eye lids to foreskin is pretty ing stupid.

Are you really that ing stupid?

Foresking is there to PROTECT THE GLANS which is supposed to be sensitive.
If you cut the foreskin off, glans is exposed to more friction and thus loses sensitivity.

Also, what the does "YOU STILL HAVE SKIN TO PROTECT YOUR SHAFT" mean?
Do you have the slightest idea about penis anatomy?
Foreskin protects glans, it has nothing to do with the shaft.
Get your terminology straight, cretin. You really are one of the stupidest s around here.

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Originally posted by Omega_Blue
it's not the same as the epidermis dude. i don't know what to compare it to. it needs to stay protected for sure. for example, i cant imagine myself walking around with my foreskin pulled back all day, because the skin surrounding the glans is so sensitive it would probably be slightly painful after a while. again if you don't have an uncut dick, you won't fully understand what i'm talking about.

edit: and if we're going to talk about skin removal that doesn't affect the functionality of the dick- why not remove your earlobes? it doesn't affect your hearing if it's removed. would it be ethical for someone to remove your earlobes without your permission, just because they don't serve a purpose?

Actually, earlobes serve a purpose. They help you determine where the sound is coming from.
But it's a good comparison, you would still hear, but not as good as before.
Same thing goes for circumcision, you still have feeling down there, it's just not as good as it would be without circumcision.
astroboy
quote:
Originally posted by tubularbills
but at the same time, you're not doing anything wrong physically to the body except removing skin.

IT'S ING SKIN PEOPLE, HELLOOOOOOOOO


So is a clitoral hood, so are your earlobes, so are your eyelids... yet if someone was to remove any of those without reason, the state would take their child away.
Gauss
quote:
Originally posted by astroboy
So is a clitoral hood, so are your earlobes, so are your eyelids... yet if someone was to remove any of those without reason, the state would take their child away.

Yes, thank you. I wanted to mention clitoral hood.
According to tubularbills' pathetic excuse for logic, clitoral hood serves no purpose either, so why not just cut it off?
Of course, that would numb the clitoris, but who cares, IT'S ING SKIN PEOPLE, HELLOOOOOOOOOO!
astroboy
quote:
Originally posted by tubularbills
no, there is no purpose to it. it's an extra flap of skin. you see what's under neath it? MORE SKIN.

if you cut off your eyelids, then you have nothing to protect your eyes.

if you cut off your foreskin, YOU STILL HAVE SKIN TO PROTECT YOUR SHAFT.

comparing eye lids to foreskin is pretty ing stupid.


Not really. What's underneath is a mucous membrane (like the inside of your mouth) - It only becomes normal skin as a reaction to the circumcision.. In the case of eyelids the unprotected eyes would cease to function entirely with dire consequences. But though the analogy is imperfect it still holds. You remove some skin, leaving the glans unprotected and it changes the organ permanently and changes the mechanics of its function permanently..

To take another analogy. If I cut off my child's earlobes or trimmed his nostrils back a bit because I thought it looked better, It would have less physical consequences than circumcision yet there would be an uproar and I would have my kid taken away.. why?
Omega_Blue
quote:
Originally posted by tubularbills
if you cut off your foreskin, YOU STILL HAVE SKIN TO PROTECT YOUR SHAFT.


yeah, i didn't read this part. dude do you know what a ing foreskin is? do you know what they actually cut off during a circumcision? because reading responses like this is.. well, dumb. and a little bit outraging.

quote:
Originally posted by Gauss
Actually, earlobes serve a purpose. They help you determine where the sound is coming from.
But it's a good comparison, you would still hear, but not as good as before.


i think we may be misunderstanding each other- i'm not talking about the ear, i'm just talking about the soft, fleshy part that you usually pierce.

according to wikipedia: "Since the earlobe does not contain cartilage the earlobe has a large blood supply and may help to warm the ears and maintain balance but generally earlobes are not considered to have any major biological function."
Gauss
Reading through this thread I'm having a hard time believing how can people still be pro-circumcision. :conf:
astroboy
quote:
Originally posted by tubularbills
we're talking about a relatively useless piece of skin that when removed does not affect the outcome of the functionality of the dick.


THis is b;atantly ignoring the previous posts.

1) The 5 most sensitive parts of the dick are removed in circumcision.

2) The most sensitive part left becomes much less sensitive than it was because of the skin that grows over. As a result the most sensitive part of the end of the penis of a circumcised man isn't as sensitive as the least sensitive part of the end of a whole male's penis.

3) During sex the foreskin creates an gliding action, increasing pleasure and decreasing abrasive friction.

4)The soft mucosa of the inner foreskin produces plasma cells, which secrete immunoglobulin antibodies, and antibacterial and antiviral proteins [7, 14], such as the pathogen-killing enzyme called lysozyme [15 and see explanation]. All of the human mucosa (the linings of the mouth, eyelids, vagina, foreskin and anus) are the body's first line of defense against disease. This benefit of the foreskin could be one possible explanation why intact men are at lower risk of chlamydia

In addition there are numerous functions that aren't fully understood yet. Also there is the psychological trauma, which some studies indicate can have a lasting effect on parent-child bonding.

Finally the risk of the procedure. ChemEnhanced posted an article where a baby had his penis severed.. The risk might be low.. but seriously WTF... why would you even expose your child to that risk? Imagine how those parents must feel. If they hadn't taken him in for an UNNECESSARY procedure he'd still have a dick.. now he's ed for life and for what potential benefit?
jonSun
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Originally posted by enydo
Wow, the people who are pro are vehemently pro, this makes absolutely no sense to me. You are doing something to someone, that really is just unnecessary, without them having any say at all.

If it were up to me, I wish my parents would have just left it as is, but that's not the way things worked out. Oh well I guess, my son is not getting cut, no way no how.


look at teh bright side. girls wont be as hesitant to suck your winkie. except yukki
enydo
I mean I'm not complaining, it's not like I have anything else to compare it to and it's served me right so far. :)

Rose
Don't guys feel more pleasure if they aren't cut?
MeLLyMeL
some of you are pushing your views on other people. relax a little.

Doing it a few days after the kid is born is not going to cause severe trauma every time the kid goes near a razor or something.

I would want to cut my kid as early as possible with of course the baby daddy's approval.


and this whole "more pleasure thing" is a load of bull. I've had sex with both cut and uncut men and they both jizz the same.

AND my son will have no say until he moves out the house - that's the whole point of being a parent.
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