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How do you like your pen0r? (pg. 3)
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| Arbiter |
| quote: | Originally posted by NeoPhono
Why is this so obvious? What will be gained by surgery now that couldn't wait until he is an adult? |
Eighteen years worth of developing normal functional dexterity in his hand, for one.
But that's really aside from the point.
The very fact that this topic of discussion exists makes plainly obvious the most important distinction between circumcision and treatment for syndactyly. You, in your original post ask "how do you prefer your member," yet no one would seriously inquire whether people prefer their digits normal or fused. Indeed, you even acknowledge that you are "opening up a can of worms," which shows that you realize not merely that many people have vastly different preferences, but that people's opinions are deeply held and highly personal.
I assume you are not seriously suggesting that a parent making a mundane medical decision on behalf of their child is comparable to them unilaterally and irreversibly imposing their own personal preferences on such a highly contentious and deeply personal matter. Yet, in the absence of such a suggestion, I am not really sure what your point is. Perhaps you could elaborate. |
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| beersANDblunts |
| perhaps you could get your self righteous ass off the computer |
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| FuzzQi |
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1. There is no medical reason to remove the foreskin. It is traditional and cultural, it is painful, somewhat barbaric, and unnecessary.
2. Since having foreskin doesn't pose any threat, it's a cosmetic modification to the body, and as such it should be his choice. |
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| donegalredneck |
| quote: | Originally posted by Seppuku
What exactly would be a reason for not cutting? just curious. |
What would be a reason for cutting? |
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| Adamo |
| i'm not a jew or muslim so i'll keep my foreskin kthx |
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| Omega_Blue |
| quote: | Originally posted by NeoPhono
I'll make it a little clearer; the issue was whether parents should be able to make a decision to "alter" the appearance of their children in non-life threatening cases. |
and i'll make it a little clearer for you- the issue, clearly, is this question: "but my question is; would you have your son "cut"..." to which you implied that they should, much like they should fix physical deformities. stop backpedaling, anyone who reads the thread knows that's the point you were trying to get across. if the issue was really about whether parents should be able to make a decision to "alter" the appearance of the child, you would've made a thread about that instead of "how do you like your pen0r."
congrats on the arriving kid man, no disrespect at all to you (obviously i got a bit more agitated about the subject than i should have :p) but yeah, you can't compare circumcisions to physical deformities man. you could've maybe compared it to getting your appendix or tonsils taken out, but alas, you didn't do that. (to which i would've replied, %90 of people leave their appendices or tonsils intact until if and when they have a problem with them, which is rare)
| quote: | Originally posted by floyd741
nope, I'm quite content with sex the way it is :tongue2 |
hey, that's totally fine, and i'm just as satisfied with sex the way it is for myself as well :toothless but, i always have the option of experiencing it either way if i choose. same logic as the dumb phrase, "once a bread becomes toast it can never be bread again" lol
| quote: | Originally posted by beersANDblunts
i have a friend whose parents had this mentality. He hated having foreskin and wishes they would have done it when he was a child so he didnt't have to go through the procedure as an adult. |
different strokes for different folks i suppose :o i've personally never had problems nor met anyone who's had a problem with their uncut wangs. why did he hate his foreskin so much? |
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| FuzzQi |
| quote: | Originally posted by Omega_Blue
different strokes for different folks |
Hahaha, definitely |
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| bas |
| quote: | Originally posted by FuzzQi
1. There is no medical reason to remove the foreskin. It is traditional and cultural, it is painful, somewhat barbaric, and unnecessary.
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I don't see how it's barbaric and painful. I mean yes I'm sure it IS painful, but there's not a single person on this planet that remembers getting circumcised (unless it was at some point during their child/adulthood).
Barbaric how? The whole point of getting cirucumcised in the first place was for cleanliness and religious purposes, both things Barbarians didn't have :p |
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| Omega_Blue |
| quote: | Originally posted by bas
I don't see how it's barbaric and painful. I mean yes I'm sure it IS painful, but there's not a single person on this planet that remembers getting circumcised (unless it was at some point during their child/adulthood).
Barbaric how? The whole point of getting cirucumcised in the first place was for cleanliness and religious purposes, both things Barbarians didn't have :p |
just because you don't remember it doesn't mean it's not unethical or any less painful.
if a girl is drugged and raped, but she doesn't remember it, does that make it ok?
babaric? that's a matter of personal opinion- imo it's genital mutilation any way you look at it. |
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| NeoPhono |
| quote: | Originally posted by Arbiter
Eighteen years worth of developing normal functional dexterity in his hand, for one.
But that's really aside from the point.
The very fact that this topic of discussion exists makes plainly obvious the most important distinction between circumcision and treatment for syndactyly. You, in your original post ask "how do you prefer your member," yet no one would seriously inquire whether people prefer their digits normal or fused. Indeed, you even acknowledge that you are "opening up a can of worms," which shows that you realize not merely that many people have vastly different preferences, but that people's opinions are deeply held and highly personal.
I assume you are not seriously suggesting that a parent making a mundane medical decision on behalf of their child is comparable to them unilaterally and irreversibly imposing their own personal preferences on such a highly contentious and deeply personal matter. Yet, in the absence of such a suggestion, I am not really sure what your point is. Perhaps you could elaborate. |
You're quite right, I did simply ask for preferences. You're the one who said it should be the child's decision and I questioned you on it because if that were the case, I need to know where you draw the line. You then went on to say that the line was "lopping off body parts" but even that needs to be defined.
I do not consider the correction of syndactyly or polydactyly to be a "mundane" decision, just as I do not consider circumcision to be mundane. If a parent has sound reasoning and it is not contraindicated medically, why is there an objection? |
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| bas |
| quote: | Originally posted by Omega_Blue
just because you don't remember it doesn't mean it's not unethical or any less painful.
if a girl is drugged and raped, but she doesn't remember it, does that make it ok?
babaric? that's a matter of personal opinion- imo it's genital mutilation any way you look at it. |
You're gonna bring ethics into this? It's just circumcision :stongue:
Being drugged & raped isn't anywhere near being circumcised at like 2 months old, c'mon man :wtf:
And my barbarism argument holds true, this is pretty ANTI-barbaric if you ask me :o |
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| donegalredneck |
| quote: | Originally posted by bas
You're gonna bring ethics into this? It's just circumcision :stongue: |
It seems like the male version of female genital mutilation - which happens in places like Nigeria. Nasty either way I reckon. |
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