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How do you like your pen0r? (pg. 4)
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| FuzzQi |
Actually, barbaric is a pretty subjective word, that's just what came to mind. I can't imagine Barbarians doing that lol.
I guess what I was trying to say is it is essentially mutilation of the body.
Also, just look at how society views male versus female circumcision. I think they need to be looked at with the same scrutiny for it to be fair. |
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| NeoPhono |
| quote: | Originally posted by Omega_Blue
and i'll make it a little clearer for you- the issue, clearly, is this question: "but my question is; would you have your son "cut"..." to which you implied that they should, much like they should fix physical deformities. stop backpedaling, anyone who reads the thread knows that's the point you were trying to get across. if the issue was really about whether parents should be able to make a decision to "alter" the appearance of the child, you would've made a thread about that instead of "how do you like your pen0r."
congrats on the arriving kid man, no disrespect at all to you (obviously i got a bit more agitated about the subject than i should have :p) but yeah, you can't compare circumcisions to physical deformities man. you could've maybe compared it to getting your appendix or tonsils taken out, but alas, you didn't do that. (to which i would've replied, %90 of people leave their appendices or tonsils intact until if and when they have a problem with them, which is rare)
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In all honesty I was just looking for opinions, not start a debate. I let myself get sucked in, just as I probably could have guessed. I know there aren't too many dad-to-be's on here, but I am interested in what people would do in the situation, regardless of why. The title of the thread was simply meant to make it more CORe-compatible. |
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| bas |
| If we're comparing male and female circumcision, I think you would have to assume they're removing the HEAD of the penis on a male (much like removing the clitoris of a female, right? isn't that what it is?) It's just extra skin fellas, no one is better/worse off with/without it. |
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| NeoPhono |
| quote: | Originally posted by bas
If we're comparing male and female circumcision, I think you would have to assume they're removing the HEAD of the penis on a male (much like removing the clitoris of a female, right? isn't that what it is?) It's just extra skin fellas, no one is better/worse off with/without it. |
Yeah...I posted this in an old, old thread. Male circumcision is analogous to removing the "hood" of the clitoris, which is actually a fairly common procedure done to increase female sexual sensitivity. |
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| Omega_Blue |
| quote: | Originally posted by bas
You're gonna bring ethics into this? It's just circumcision :stongue:
Being drugged & raped isn't anywhere near being circumcised at like 2 months old, c'mon man :wtf:
And my barbarism argument holds true, this is pretty ANTI-barbaric if you ask me :o |
dude, cirumcision is totally an ethical subject. think about it like this (and this is completely a hypothetical, probably would never happen irl scenario)- say you're uncircumcised, and you're at your current age. you get drugged and someone cuts off your foreskin, but you don't remember it. are you gonna be like, "meh, it's just a cirumcision" then? was it ethical for them to do that? no? why is it ethical at 2months old, but not at 24 years old?
i hold that one can construe it as barbaric either way you look at it. imo it's barbaric. cleanliness shouldn't be an issue because you can and should keep it clean without having to chop it off. religious reasoning is just plain ridiculous.
| quote: | Originally posted by NeoPhono
In all honesty I was just looking for opinions, not start a debate. I let myself get sucked in, just as I probably could have guessed. I know there aren't too many dad-to-be's on here, but I am interested in what people would do in the situation, regardless of why. The title of the thread was simply meant to make it more CORe-compatible. |
lol, fair enough. |
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| denys envy |
| if you were to ask your son about his preference on this issue. and he could answer you. what do you think he would say? |
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| bas |
| quote: | Originally posted by denys envy
if you were to ask your son about his preference on this issue. and he could answer you. what do you think he would say? |
Get that sharp knife away from my weiner. |
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| denys envy |
| quote: | Originally posted by bas
Get that sharp knife away from my weiner. |
hammer nail head. |
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| Seppuku |
I'm glad my parents chose to cut me when I was born.  |
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| Omega_Blue |
| quote: | Originally posted by bas
If we're comparing male and female circumcision, I think you would have to assume they're removing the HEAD of the penis on a male (much like removing the clitoris of a female, right? isn't that what it is?) It's just extra skin fellas, no one is better/worse off with/without it. |
that's a bad comparison, that's why i didn't mention it. thanks for ing it up donegalredneck. |
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| ZeJayMan |
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| bas |
| quote: | Originally posted by Omega_Blue
dude, cirumcision is totally an ethical subject. think about it like this (and this is completely a hypothetical, probably would never happen irl scenario)- say you're uncircumcised, and you're at your current age. you get drugged and someone cuts off your foreskin, but you don't remember it. are you gonna be like, "meh, it's just a cirumcision" then? was it ethical for them to do that? no? why is it ethical at 2months old, but not at 24 years old? |
Yes, but we're not talking about conscious free-thinking adults being dragged away in the middle of the night by some foreskin hungry monster slicing off the tips of peepees. I can only imagine the amount of pain one would be in after having their foreskin removed, not to mention how incredibly sensitive the head of the penis would be after being covered for so long, a slight breeze would probably set you off.
Fact of the matter is that circumcision is, at this point, strictly cultural/religeous. There's really no point in trying to sway someone one way or the other, I seriously doubt parents are having their children circumcised for maliciuos purposes :p If we're going to start discussing the ethical implications of circumcision we might as well start talking about being tattooed/scarred, Hindus getting the henna tattoos, Mormons' right to polygamy or those weird Catholics that beat themselves up. |
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