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| Domesticated |
| quote: | Originally posted by Seppuku
What exactly would be a reason for not cutting? just curious. |
What exactly would be a reason for cutting? Just curious.
| quote: | Originally posted by Arbiter
The very fact that this topic of discussion exists makes plainly obvious the most important distinction between circumcision and treatment for syndactyly. |
Do you conduct research before every post you make?
| quote: | Originally posted by echosystm
As has already been mentioned, if you leave your child uncut, they can easily choose to have their foreskin removed later. Thus, circumcision at birth is stupid. |
...because circumcision at a later date isn't? I am sure they exist, but what kind of ed up brain gets the chop as an adult?
Also, to the person who said circumcisions are irreversible, apparently that's no longer the case. Some guy in the US invented a special weight and pulley system. :gsmile: |
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| astroboy |
| quote: | Originally posted by Domesticated
...because circumcision at a later date isn't? I am sure they exist, but what kind of ed up brain gets the chop as an adult? |
Hey not for me to judge people's desire for body modification.. http://www.bme.com/hard/index.html :wtf:
| quote: | | Also, to the person who said circumcisions are irreversible, apparently that's no longer the case. Some guy in the US invented a special weight and pulley system. :gsmile: |
Apparently the Jews came up with that method around 200BC. |
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| Arbiter |
| quote: | Originally posted by Domesticated
Do you conduct research before every post you make? |
Yes. Before making this post, for example, I went back and reviewed every post I've made on these forums since I joined in 2002 to confirm that there was not a single post that I had posted without conducting any research. |
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| Domesticated |
| quote: | Originally posted by Arbiter
Yes. Before making this post, for example, I went back and reviewed every post I've made on these forums since I joined in 2002 to confirm that there was not a single post that I had posted without conducting any research. |
Very clever. I just find it hard to believe that unless one had been specifically involved with an area which employs the term, 'syndactyly' wouldn't be part of their vernacular. |
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| Arbiter |
| quote: | Originally posted by Domesticated
Very clever. I just find it hard to believe that unless one had been specifically involved with an area which employs the term, 'syndactyly' wouldn't be part of their vernacular. |
That does seem pretty unlikely, but who knows what exotic areas of expertise I might have had to master while working as an operative for a super secret government agency.
On the other hand, I was responding to a question of what medical treatment I might seek for my hypothetical child. In order to meaningfully respond it might be helpful to at least know what the underlying condition was; that is, unless you would base such a decision solely on the basis of a not-so-subtly-named jpeg file. |
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| Fledz |
It's 2009, not 109AD. Leave it uncut and let your children make their own choice later in life for s sake. I love parents that make irreversible changes to their children under the excuse of religion or tradition :rolleyes:
It's not like you're removing/fixing an obvious birth defect because anyone that calls the foreskin of a penis a "defect" is as dense as the bricks in my house. |
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| tubularbills |
| quote: | Originally posted by Fledz
It's 2009, not 109AD. Leave it uncut and let your children make their own choice later in life for s sake. I love parents that make irreversible changes to their children under the excuse of religion or tradition :rolleyes:
It's not like you're removing/fixing an obvious birth defect because anyone that calls the foreskin of a penis a "defect" is as dense as the bricks in my house. |
but at the same time, you're not doing anything wrong physically to the body except removing skin.
IT'S ING SKIN PEOPLE, HELLOOOOOOOOO |
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| stren |
| I like my penis half cut. Its like a short turtleneck |
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| NeoPhono |
| quote: | | Originally posted by Arbiter I still can't tell whether you're being intentionally dense or unintentionally so. The answer to your question is right in front of you. Just read this thread: there are a lot of people who have very strong opinions one way or the other on the issue. If you don't see the obvoius ethical problems with robbing them of the opportunity to make such a highly personal decision regarding their own body, then I implore you to choose another profession... |
Actually, this is something that does happen in my profession. If two modes of treatment are equivocal or close, it is my job to educate and allow the patient to make an informed decision. Even if I strongly favor one path, I am still required to make the patient aware of all possible options and outcome. The decision to circumcise in this case is being made by me as a parent, not me as a physician. Again, that's why I asked for opinions in this thread, not peer-reviewed articles.
And I do not see ethical concerns with the removal of what could be considered a vestigial body part at the direction of a minor's parents. If there was some form of documented deficit that arises because of circumcision, that would be another story. That information is still lacking. |
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| Arbiter |
| quote: | Originally posted by NeoPhono
Actually, this is something that does happen in my profession. If two modes of treatment are equivocal or close, it is my job to educate and allow the patient to make an informed decision. Even if I strongly favor one path, I am still required to make the patient aware of all possible options and outcome. The decision to circumcise in this case is being made by me as a parent, not me as a physician. Again, that's why I asked for opinions in this thread, not peer-reviewed articles. |
Interesting. I imagine that how we decide on modes of treatment would be relevant if there were something to treat here...
| quote: | | And I do not see ethical concerns with the removal of what could be considered a vestigial body part at the direction of a minor's parents. |
Well, I don't know how to dumb it down any more for you, but regardless I don't think it's the complexity of the issue that's the obstacle here. No, judging by that conspicuously hedged language, I think there's a better explanation: denial. That hypothesis does have the minor disadvantage of being potentially unfalsifiable, but whether the problem is cognitive impotence or cognitive dissonance matters not, as I am equally disinterested in providing online counseling for penile trauma victims and organizing a tranceaddict.com BOCES.
In either case I wish you the best of luck in overcoming this adversity, though I must continue to recommend that you pursue a vocation requiring less attention to ethical issues. Plumbing, maybe. In that field, when you wrongfully remove someone's fixtures it will be a relatively trivial matter to replace them. |
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| Gauss |
| People first started cutting their dicks because of religion. Enough said. |
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| Gauss |
| quote: | Originally posted by bas
And my barbarism argument holds true, this is pretty ANTI-barbaric if you ask me :o |
Anti-barbaric? Are you serious?
Then these too must be anti-barbaric in your opinion?
 
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