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Meat eaters! Why do you eat other animals? (pg. 20)
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| Lews |
| quote: | Originally posted by floyd741
Soy milk is delicious |
Almost milk is even better :) |
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| Moral Hazard |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lews
Almost milk is even better :) |
My favorite to date is oat milk. |
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lews
I stand by my point that the two reasons people eat meat is selfishness and laziness. |
It's becoming clear in this thread the reason people become vegetarians is a burning sense of self-righteousness and moral superiority that just has to find an outlet somewhere.
| quote: | | And you really don't need to eat that much. It's quite easy to get energy and not eat meat. |
It is easy for you when you have the convenience of modern plant foods that were bred especially to be calorie-dense. Try surviving on nothing but plants in most prehistoric environments. Or heck, try doing it in the wild *now.*
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| quote: | | The human body doesn't need anywhere near as many grams of protein as people assume, assumptions that are mostly due to the lovely advertising and lobbying of the meat industry. |
Yeah, like the grain industry is such a lightweight in the lobbying department.
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| CONNERMAN2000 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lews
Did you seriously just ask that?
Go look up the word Vegan in a dictionary, please. |
| quote: | Originally posted by Domesticated
You must be brain dead. |
So, neither of you are going to even touch the original question I asked?
I made a mistake in not specifically acknowledging that fine difference between vegan and vegetarian, but that still doesn't change the point I'm making. Where do you draw the line? Why do animals get the holy treatment, but everything else is fine to barbarically munch away on? |
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| denys envy |
| because my ancestors spent thousands of laborous years of domesticating animals for the purpose of eating them. turning down meat in my diet is no worse than spitting on their graves and turning my back on the innovation of human beings and evolution of culture and society. |
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| PivotTechno |
It's as much about where what you eat comes from, as it is what you're eating.
Don't have time to sift through 20+ pages to see if it's been mentioned, but:
...is a good place to start. |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
Myth #1: Meat consumption contributes to famine and depletes the Earth's natural resources.
Myth #2: Vitamin B12 can be obtained from plant sources.
Myth #3: Our needs for vitamin D can be met by sunlight.
Myth #4: The body's needs for vitamin A can be entirely obtained from plant foods.
Myth #5: Meat-eating causes osteoporosis, kidney disease, heart disease, and cancer.
Myth #6: Saturated fats and dietary cholesterol cause heart disease, atherosclerosis, and/or cancer, and low-fat, low-cholesterol diets are healthier for people.
Myth #7: Vegetarians live longer and have more energy and endurance than meat-eaters.
Myth #8: The "cave man" diet was low-fat and/or vegetarian. Humans evolved as vegetarians.
Myth #9: Meat and saturated fat consumption have increased in the 20th century, with a corresponding increase in heart disease and cancer.
Myth #10: Soy products are adequate substitutes for meat and dairy products.
Myth #11: The human body is not designed for meat consumption.
Myth #12: Eating animal flesh causes violent, aggressive behavior in humans.
Myth #13: Animal products contain numerous, harmful toxins.
Myth #14: Eating meat or animal products is less "spiritual" than eating only plant foods.
Myth #15: Eating animal foods is inhumane. [/quote]
please check this link for the details on each myth.
http://www.westonaprice.org/mythstr...etarianism.html |
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| Joss Weatherby |
I enjoy meat because it tastes good.
Also, try asking a cow this very question, he would kill you and everyone you love in an instant. So yea. When cows stop eating cows I will stop eating cows. |
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| Rose |
| I love meat. I LOVE IT DAMNIT. |
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| Joss Weatherby |
| quote: | Originally posted by Rose
I love meat. I LOVE IT DAMNIT. |
I know thats just floridian mexicubana slang for smokin Rose. |
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| astroboy |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lews
Eating meat can be directly linked to osteoporosis, cancer, kidney disease, and heart diseases.
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Innuit and Chukcha peoples eat more meat than any Westerner. They have almost no vegies in their diet.. all they eat is seal, walrus, whale and fish, the fat of the first three being particularly prized. They have low obesity, low blood cholesterol (with a high level of "good" cholesterol) and very low rates of the diseases you mentioned (heart disease and strokes in particular were almost unheard of in these communities until they started eating processed foods). People in Greece and France are heavy meat eaters and have lower levels of cancer... and so on and so on
People with pre-existing kidney disease can benefit from a protein-restricted diet, but there is ZERO evidence that having a balanced amount of animal protein can in any way increase the chance of a healthy person developing kidney disease.
There is no evidence that animal protein lowers bone density or causes osteoporosis. There is evidence that lowered vitamin D ( a problem for many vegans) is a risk factor, however. Also I believe that statistically vegan women have been shown to have a higher risk of developing osteoporosis than women eating a balanced diet....
This info is pretty widespread in peer reviewed research. Information indicating the opposite is found almost exclusively in pro-vegetarian propaganda. At the end of the day any justification of vegetarianism comes down to either that meat is unethical because it is wasteful or meat is unethical because it = murder. |
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