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WMC 2011 Dates - March 8-12 / Ultra Music Festival March 25-27 -- DISCUSSION (pg. 20)
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| Neonbeats |
| quote: | Originally posted by tranceaholic
hey guys, can we start a thread, with the confirmed events on what week they fall on so it can help people coming from oversea's or wherever..we are a group of 15 people coming all the way from dubai and this confusion doesnt help us at all.
so far i hear the juicy beach,size matter party and get lost are on the last week of march? can anyone add?
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Probably a good idea.
Beatport party as well last week. Plus s ton of djs confirming yesterday and today that they will be there the last week of march. So far I havent heard of anyone doing anything the beginning of March. I've only seen some confirmed gay parties for the Winter Party. So I guess you can rule out any Surfcomber pool parties for the wmc dates since the gay parties are there... |
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| shaminii |
| quote: | Originally posted by Neonbeats
Probably a good idea.
Beatport party as well last week. Plus s ton of djs confirming yesterday and today that they will be there the last week of march. So far I havent heard of anyone doing anything the beginning of March. I've only seen some confirmed gay parties for the Winter Party. So I guess you can rule out any Surfcomber pool parties for the wmc dates since the gay parties are there... |
Are the parties during WMC really gay or are you just using the word "gay" to define something that you dislike? Maybe both? |
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| tranceaholic |
| quote: | Originally posted by shaminii
Are the parties during WMC really gay or are you just using the word "gay" to define something that you dislike? Maybe both? |
i think he means, parties for the gay community, i heard the same on another website. |
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| Cool1g |
| quote: | Originally posted by tranceaholic
i think he means, parties for the gay community, i heard the same on another website. |
^this
there are parties specifically for the gay crowd - usually known as White or Circuit parties... it sounds like there are a bunch of those scheduled for the official wmc dates per the poster above...
it seems like WMC picked those dates mainly due to when they could find convention space somewhere in Miami Beach to host their event... (Tiesto tweeted they couldn't find a hotel to host it) and they didn't bother researching other things like SXSW which conflict with the dates or think about how much planning had already gone on in booking djs/events for late March... |
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| LiquidX |
| quote: | Originally posted by Cool1g
^this
there are parties specifically for the gay crowd - usually known as White or Circuit parties... it sounds like there are a bunch of those scheduled for the official wmc dates per the poster above...
it seems like WMC picked those dates mainly due to when they could find convention space somewhere in Miami Beach to host their event... (Tiesto tweeted they couldn't find a hotel to host it) and they didn't bother researching other things like SXSW which conflict with the dates or think about how much planning had already gone on in booking djs/events for late March... |
And that's why procrastination is a bitch :gsmile: |
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| bigsnail |
| cant wait for sxsw! :D |
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| LiquidX |
From MTV out of all places .. check out the BOLD part if you want to skip thru :)
| quote: | Controversy has swirled around the electronic dance music community for the past two days over the Winter Music Conference and Ultra Music Festival's misaligned 2011 schedules. While initial uncertainties left EDM enthusiasts crying foul over the seemingly early WMC dates, the initial lack of information has now given birth to crucial endorsements from prominent players. Late Wednesday afternoon Luis Puig, owner of Space Nightclub in Miami, came out swinging in defense of the 26-year-old Winter Music Conference's integrity, whilst slamming that of Ultra Music Festival, accusing it of greedy practices.
"WMC used to be about free parties with DJs and industry folks sharing and enjoying new music. Now, it is about greed and money," says Puig in a 780-word manifesto sent late yesterday afternoon to his nightclub's promotional e-mail list. "I love Ultra [Music Festival] and what they bring to the game," he goes on to say, "but I do not agree with their greedy strategy to manipulate and monopolize Music Conference. This is just not good for anyone." While Puig blatantly admits that he does indeed capitalize off of the business brought in by UMF (whose gates lay just a short walk from his downtown Miami club), he is quick to point out that "without WMC, there would be no Ultra Music Festival."
Meanwhile, while Puig's manifesto was being absorbed by the masses, the official Winter Music Conference team posted an update to its website entitled "Just the Facts," aimed at dispelling the various rumors scurrying about the Web over the past 36 hours.
"We were blindsided by Ultra's last minute announcement," said WMC organizers of UMF's supposed noncompliance. The WMC post alleged that UMF management breached their contract with WMC, claiming "a signed October 15, 2009, contract between the two entities [stating] that the 2011 Ultra Music Festival would be presented during the five-day period in February, March or April 2011 designated and promoted by WMC as the 'WMC week.' " While the specific legalities officially associated with this possible breach are unclear, it is rumored that UMF was unable to secure permitting in Miami's Bicentennial Park for the weekend of March 11-13 due to the annual Calle Ocho Carnival, which is expected to draw a crowd of more than 1 million to downtown Miami on March 13. A lack of municipal resources are being tagged with the blame.
Puig — who also heads up the WMC's famed Surfcomber Pool Parties — spoke to MTV News last night and argued that neither artists nor party promoters will even have the ability to properly sustain a pool-party-laced, faux-WMC week centered around the UMF dates. "The City of Miami Beach only issues Pool and Beach Party permits during the week of the official WMC," he maintains. If this is indeed true, then one of the most alluring and popular elements of a potential "UMF Week" would be pushed to the wayside.
Later in the evening, WMC owner and co-founder Bill Kelly spoke exclusively to MTV News and further corroborated the points in Puig's manifesto, exclaiming, "Louis nailed it on the head!" Kelly, however, does admit that the departure of UMF from WMC week will absolutely affect his longstanding operation negatively. "We're going to be hurt a little bit," he says, noting that more than 25 percent of those who buy the official WMC registration pass — which currently costs $275 — do so to take advantage of the complimentary UMF ticket (now selling at $179 for the three-day pass). However, Kelly goes on to speculate that the separation of the two entities might actually open up new doors for both parties, including one scenario that might even entail the creation of WMC's own exclusive "festival style" performance centerpiece.
"The possibility of doing a smaller, more intimate festival on the beach is a real possibility now," says Kelly. "Because of Ultra Music Festival's size, they have been banned from [having their event] on [Miami] Beach." Some would agree that Puig, who recently pulled off the Miami permutation of the Swedish House Mafia's "Masquerade Motel" to a crowd of nearly 10,000, is perfectly suited to take on that challenge.
In addition to Puig's WMC endorsement, many others seem to be at least silently preparing to publicly do the same, including promotional groups such as BMF/Auriela, who last year played host to the popular Belevedere VIP Lounge at the W Hotel, which also has announced its pairing with the official WMC dates, likely returning its base of operations to the W.
"Winter Music Conference is a weeklong cultural celebration and they have our full support," says Aurelia Group president Lainie Copicotto. "From VIP Music Lounges to huge nightclubs to small 'in-stores' and poolside performances, WMC is not about one event or one DJ. WMC is the bigger picture."
With these key WMC endorsements, those historically involved have now been prompted to take sides in the matter. Ultra Records, which carries no affiliation to UMF, and the online-EMD-music store Beatport have both told MTV News that they will issue statements and event plans for Miami in the coming days. MTV News is also tentatively scheduled to speak with the official UMF concert promoters later this afternoon. |
I personally, really like the sound of a more "intimate" EDM festival at the beach. And if LP jumps on the wagon and gets a bash of artists to the beach, then all this mess might end up being a good things.. we'll see how it plays out.
Now, if pool party permits aren't given throughout other weeks, it might force all other pool party's to follow WMC dates ? |
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| ac1dream |
| quote: | Originally posted by LiquidX
From MTV out of all places .. check out the BOLD part if you want to skip thru :)
I personally, really like the sound of a more "intimate" EDM festival at the beach. And if LP jumps on the wagon and gets a bash of artists to the beach, then all this mess might end up being a good things.. we'll see how it plays out.
Now, if pool party permits aren't given throughout other weeks, it might force all other pool party's to follow WMC dates ? |
Excellent find. |
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| trancension |
Excellent find indeed.
I might say Ultra and just come the earlier week it sounds like.
Really all depends on who artists like Markus Schulz/Above & beyond end up "siding" with though. |
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| london_ta |
Dear big bother America,
When will you ever learn that greedy and power result in war. Nothing good ever comes of this.
I predict WMC failing after this year. I doubt I will waste my money to go this year.
Tommy
On another note....
I love that WMC is going back to it's roots. However, I don't like that WMC will have so many gay men (Winter Party happening that week).
I see Ultra attracting a massive crowd this year and the city shutting a lot of the parties down.
just my two cents :D |
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| ThisIsTulsa |
| How dumb could WMC be to schedule it during Winter Week (gay pride)? I mean correct me if I am wrong, but most clubs will be hosting winter week parties. WMC is so stupid. I will be there the usual weekend and I don't even attend Ultra. |
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| Scoops |
WMC needs to hire Antonio Dodson to be their spokesperson this year
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