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Police raid Republik?? What's going on? (pg. 11)
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| Cosmic Fur |
| quote: | Originally posted by rabbitjoker
LOL! Some business concept you have (dealing when no customers are around...). |
This is a dumb defence because if the police already had a warrant to arrest him, then they already had enough evidence to convict him. It's stupid to go and break into a rammed club hoping to catch the dealer in the act. You're really grasping at straws here, rj. |
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| rabbitjoker |
| quote: | Originally posted by dark _entity
for the capacity of the VIP the TPS had to execute an ETF that staffs 70 ppl, not to mention OPP, RCMP, AGCO armed to their teeth? |
How about we " up the nature" of the above assumption for a second...
How many years of tactical training do you have? How long have you worked with ETF, OPP, RCMP? How much experience do you have on executing drug search and arrest warrants in nightclub environments? How much information and background do you have on the specifics of the requirement for this action? How many planning meetings did you sit in on the plan this action? None and zero are probably your answers.
It might be worthwhile to apply your own "do not assume" system to yourself before you go assuming what is and what isn't required to do a job that you have no familiarity with (at any level). |
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| Jayx1 |
if i believe that i read the warrant right. It said they had authorization for them to search the premises for information related to the accused between 10pm and 8am. Which means they could have waited until before or after business hours to execute the search. Not while it's packed at peak time. Please keep in mind
THE CLUB WAS NOT IMPLICATED IN ANY WAY. THE WARRANT WAS SERVED TO SEARCH FOR INFORMATION AGAINST THE ACCUSED, NOT THE CLUB
As for Dan, i dont buy any of these charges. |
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| EvilTree |
| quote: | Originally posted by dark _entity
again assumption is the up of your nature, couple of hundred drunk people??? get this for a change, only VIP Lounge of Republik was locked down. what is the capacity of the VIP Lounge @ Republik, does anyone know??? and you are telling me that for the capacity of the VIP the TPS had to execute an ETF that staffs 70 ppl, not to mention OPP, RCMP, AGCO armed to their teeth? |
Right. My fault on that.
Regardless, if you're going to involve people with guns to enforce control, you do it quickly with optimum use of force required.
It only takes one slight loss of control for potentially for a situation to go out of control. (like, one ed up patron lipping off to a cop and reaches into his pocket. and a cop thinks he might be pulling out a gun)
| quote: | Originally posted by dark _entity
So what if I tell you that I know at least 10 patrons that were in the club who were not intoxicated at any point of time are you going to tell me that I'm full of ? |
It is reasonable to assume there will be some people getting drunk and doing a bit of drugs at any club event. You're going to tell me that I'm full of on that account? |
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| rabbitjoker |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
THE CLUB WAS NOT IMPLICATED IN ANY WAY. |
That is good to hear. |
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| Chris Allen |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
THE CLUB WAS NOT IMPLICATED IN ANY WAY. THE WARRANT WAS SERVED TO SEARCH FOR INFORMATION AGAINST THE ACCUSED, NOT THE CLUB
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Regardless of whether or not the club was implicated, it's surely not good publicity for the club and the nightlife itself. I'm sure this is part of Jay's ranting and raving. |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Chris Allen
Regardless of whether or not the club was implicated, it's surely not good publicity for the club and the nightlife itself. I'm sure this is part of Jay's ranting and raving. |
This isnt good for Toronto. The city wants everyone out. It should be very clear to everyone now if it wasnt before. |
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| Skipper |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
thats fine..but i was adressing that more to skipper..
Obviously i know a lot more about this than most. to pass my comments off as baseless is what was insulting. Of course you should always try and get the full story..... But i was basically i was being told to shut up as im "just an employee" |
With my "just an employee" question I was only trying to establish that you're not involved in the criminal activity itself. It followed my question "why are you so defensive"? |
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| Skipper |
| quote: | Originally posted by Misanthrope
What was one of the solutions?
"stop going out"
:rolleyes: |
I thought even you could detect a post dripping with sarcasm like that. |
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| Skipper |
As an aside, what kind of security do patrons go through to get in?
(Not that this prevents every weapon from getting into a club, but I'm curious) |
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| dark _entity |
| quote: | Originally posted by rabbitjoker
How about we " up the nature" of the above assumption for a second...
How many years of tactical training do you have? How long have you worked with ETF, OPP, RCMP? How much experience do you have on executing drug search and arrest warrants in nightclub environments? How much information and background do you have on the specifics of the requirement for this action? How many planning meetings did you sit in on the plan this action? None and zero are probably your answers.
It might be worthwhile to apply your own "do not assume" system to yourself before you go assuming what is and what isn't required to do a job that you have no familiarity with (at any level). |
I'm sorry I didn't serve for TPS, ETF, OPP or RCMP, however I've been trained by Berkut also known as OMON. I think by now you are probably thinking WTF is this guy talking about. For those of you who don't know neither Berkut nor OMON I suggest you visit google.com and do a search. To answer your question Rabbit Joker I've been to a lot of planned meetings as well as test drills that evolved different type possible situation. I've been taught the basics of SAMBO also know as "Systema" Russian Military hand to hand combat system. I was also taught to distinguish potential danger and how to distinguish civilians from criminals. At same time I have been put through various psychological real time simulated missions dealing with various crisis situations. I would say I’ve handled a lot of different types of fire arms and dealt with different type of situations. For Berkut to respond to a crisis situation it had to involve things that regular Militia couldn’t handle on its own some of those things included major drug and arms bust, hostage situations, mass control, uncontrolled fire situation. Not to arrest one or two peoples. |
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| Halycon |
| quote: | Originally posted by Skipper
You probably should just cease going out altogether....as a patron, if the venue you are at is involved in criminal activity, the risk for this to happen at any time is pretty high. |
that include every venue sarah, i don't think there's a bar in the city that refuses service to someone whos obviously drunk... unless they're spilly drunk.
and how many afterhours security personal turn a blind eye to obvious drug use/traffiking? |
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