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Police raid Republik?? What's going on? (pg. 13)
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| Spin Laden |
| quote: | Originally posted by activate
element of surprise.
nab them when they're not expecting it.
lessens then chances of them getting away. People tend to be too confused and not know what to do.
lessens the chances of the perp having the opportunity to draw a weapon. lets face it.. if he's dealing coke.. someone along the chain is involved in organized crime and that usually means guns.
improves the odds of catching them in the act. Don't have a chance to ditch the drugs or run to the washroom and flush them. Also ups the odds of catching other that are in on it.
It's pretty easy to figure why they did it the way they did.
They do it that way for all those street gangs and the biker gangs.. why should they do it differntly for someone else just because they work at a nightclub. and lets not forget.. if he was dealing.. and works at a club.. he's probably doing most of his business at the club to! |
okay, this is the post to end this thread (for now). I could have figured it out, even with my limited policing knowledge. Skipper, drop those workout sets :whip: :clown: |
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| KKEFKA |
| quote: | Originally posted by Cosmic Fur
This is a dumb defence because if the police already had a warrant to arrest him, then they already had enough evidence to convict him. It's stupid to go and break into a rammed club hoping to catch the dealer in the act. You're really grasping at straws here, rj. |
A search warrant doesn't automatically mean you're guilty. From what I've read the police where acting upon a search warrant, which is legal authority to search the premise for said items mentioned in the warrant. |
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| EvilTree |
| quote: | Originally posted by KKEFKA
A search warrant doesn't automatically mean you're guilty. From what I've read the police where acting upon a search warrant, which is legal authority to search the premise for said items mentioned in the warrant. |
Yes, but you just can't get a search warrant out of someone's arse.
The cops gotta present some sort of evidence, or at least strong enough of a case to get a search warrant.
A search warrant does not mean whoever the target is guilty. But it does make you wonder.
Well, unless there is some sort of agenda or corruption involved in the police and the judges. |
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| exstasie |
| I wonder if any authorities surf TranceAddict ... :eek: |
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| Spin Laden |
| oh I'm sure the odd narc does with all the stuff going on at clubs :p :toothless |
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| Stilez |
| quote: | Originally posted by exstasie
I wonder if any authorities surf TranceAddict ... :eek: |
yes they do.
..and this is ed!! I was at a club once ..back in the day, where the cops raided a club and a tear gas canister smacked a chic straight in the face. I didn't stick around to see what happened to her, but I assume it was pretty serious...considering the velocity at which they're fired at.
Rule #1: If you see cops...or for that matter bad guys bursting into a venue, first thing you do is drop and stay out of their way, because whether or not you're innocent you're increasing your chance of gettin' clapped. |
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| _EuG_ |
I realy hope this is a one time thing and doesnt happen again anytime soon (or ever). If I was there to witness such a thing, it would totaly kill my taste for clubbing for a long while.
I hope all the witnesses are gonna come forward and do something about this situation (if it truly was unreasonable force). |
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| koncept |
| quote: | | Originally posted by _EuG_ If I was there to witness such a thing, it would totaly kill my taste for clubbing for a long while. |
I wouldn't be surprised in the least if this was the intent. Seems like a classic "Shock and Awe" campaign to me. |
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| KKEFKA |
There are so many discrepancies in people’s stories here; I don’t even know where to begin.
| quote: | Originally posted by koncept
... Now back to the topic at hand. Is there anybody else on this board who was there and witnessed this directly? I am still very curious. |
I was there! I think Jayx1 is a little biased on this matter.
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
maybe not..but how would you like to get tazered for no reason? |
Comments like this and others service my opinion on this matter. I agree with Sarah and R.J points on this matter.
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
if i believe that i read the warrant right. It said they had authorization for them to search the premises for information related to the accused between 10pm and 8am. Which means they could have waited until before or after business hours to execute the search. Not while it's packed at peak time. Please keep in mind
THE CLUB WAS NOT IMPLICATED IN ANY WAY. THE WARRANT WAS SERVED TO SEARCH FOR INFORMATION AGAINST THE ACCUSED, NOT THE CLUB
As for Dan, i dont buy any of these charges. |
Your response doesn't make any sense to me. It contradicts what I’ve learned. I've actually done mock search warrants in school. I took Police Foundations then I took Advanced Investigations and Enforcement. They (meaning the police investigators) have to first file a form 1 section 487 to get the warrant. This involves quite a lengthy investigation. A judge or Justice of the Peace will not endorse one of these forms just because they feel like it or like you. Please read the following if you want to see the legal justifications on this matter.
Criminal Code
PART XV: SPECIAL PROCEDURE AND POWERS
General Powers of Certain Officials
Information for search warrant 487. (1) A justice who is satisfied by information on oath in Form 1 that there are reasonable grounds to believe that there is in a building, receptacle or place
(a) anything on or in respect of which any offence against this Act or any other Act of Parliament has been or is suspected to have been committed,
(b) anything that there are reasonable grounds to believe will afford evidence with respect to the commission of an offence, or will reveal the whereabouts of a person who is believed to have committed an offence, against this Act or any other Act of Parliament,
(c) anything that there are reasonable grounds to believe is intended to be used for the purpose of committing any offence against the person for which a person may be arrested without warrant, or
(c.1) any offence-related property,
may at any time issue a warrant authorizing a peace officer or a public officer who has been appointed or designated to administer or enforce a federal or provincial law and whose duties include the enforcement of this Act or any other Act of Parliament and who is named in the warrant
(d) to search the building, receptacle or place for any such thing and to seize it, and
(e) subject to any other Act of Parliament, to, as soon as practicable, bring the thing seized before, or make a report in respect thereof to, the justice or some other justice for the same territorial division in accordance with section 489.1.
Endorsement of search warrant (2) Where the building, receptacle or place in which anything mentioned in subsection (1) is believed to be is in any other territorial division, the justice may issue his warrant in like form modified according to the circumstances, and the warrant may be executed in the other territorial division after it has been endorsed, in Form 28, by a justice having jurisdiction in that territorial division.
Operation of computer system and copying equipment (2.1) A person authorized under this section to search a computer system in a building or place for data may
(a) use or cause to be used any computer system at the building or place to search any data contained in or available to the computer system;
(b) reproduce or cause to be reproduced any data in the form of a print-out or other intelligible output;
(c) seize the print-out or other output for examination or copying; and
(d) use or cause to be used any copying equipment at the place to make copies of the data.
Duty of person in possession or control (2.2) Every person who is in possession or control of any building or place in respect of which a search is carried out under this section shall, on presentation of the warrant, permit the person carrying out the search
(a) to use or cause to be used any computer system at the building or place in order to search any data contained in or available to the computer system for data that the person is authorized by this section to search for;
(b) to obtain a hard copy of the data and to seize it; and
(c) to use or cause to be used any copying equipment at the place to make copies of the data.
Form (3) A search warrant issued under this section may be in the form set out as Form 5 in Part XXVIII, varied to suit the case.
Effect of endorsement (4) An endorsement that is made on a warrant as provided for in subsection (2) is sufficient authority to the peace officers or public officers to whom it was originally directed, and to all peace officers within the jurisdiction of the justice by whom it is endorsed, to execute the warrant and to deal with the things seized in accordance with section 489.1 or as otherwise provided by law.
R.S., 1985, c. C-46, s. 487; R.S., 1985, c. 27 (1st Supp.), s. 68; 1994, c. 44, s. 36; 1997, c. 18, s. 41, c. 23, s. 12; 1999, c. 5, s. 16.
Now the press release says this –
Search Warrant executed at Entertainment District bar,
52 Division
52 Division
416-808-5200
On Sunday, July 29, 2007, at 1:15 a.m., police executed a search warrant at the Republik Lounge, at 261 Richmond Street West.
It is alleged that:
- the bar had been under investigation by police regarding the distribution of drugs inside the club.
Daniel Park, 38, of Toronto, the Corporate Manager of Republik Lounge, has been charged with:
1) three counts of Trafficking Cocaine,
2) Possession of Cocaine.
He was scheduled to appear in court at Old City Hall, on Sunday, July 29, 2007, room 101, 10 a.m.
Pouria Samaeipour, 26, of Markham, an employee of Republik Lounge, has been charged with:
1) Traffic in Cocaine.
He was scheduled to appear in court at Old City Hall, on Monday, July 30, 2007, room 101, 10 a.m.
Constable Wendy Drummond, Public Information, for Detective Heinz Henkel, 52 Division
I’m going by what the press release says.
If you know anything about a search, especially a drug search, the police have the power to search ANYWHERE that might contain drugs. Now, generally speaking, people don’t have drugs out in plain sight. So, the police have to look everywhere they suspect drugs might be hidden or the person(s) responsible. As you already know, people hide drugs in very strange places.
There was more than one person involved in this matter according to the police too. I’m not defending the police, but I can see why they acted the way they did from a tactical point. This previous point is based on what I saw that night and the situation. It also parallels what I’ve learned. They have to take control of the situation. With the number of people in the club the ratio’s where not in the police’s favour should the crowd get out of control. The police from what I’ve learned tend to act proactive in theses type of situations. I’m not saying its right, but that’s the way it is when that many people are involved in a situation like that. They also came over the P.A to say if I remember correctly that “Everyone one is safe, there is no need for alarm” or something along those lines. The police confined the situation to the V.I.P area of the club. Where I’m assuming the said persons where likely to be located because they didn’t cause any problems when they where in the general area of Republik.
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
maybe not..but how would you like to get tazered for no reason? |
I’m curious Jayx1 where you saw this person tasered?
If I remember correctly you said you weren’t in the V.I.P area during this.
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
I was downstairs at the time and saw the ETF enter. However I was not upstairs where all the commotion allegedly took place.
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Hearsay evidence is useless in the eyes of the court.
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
At about 1:15 am on Sarturday the police executed a search warrant looking for an individual that they allege was selling drugs. They raided the club, about 100 of them with their guns drawn. ETF was there in helmets and full armour.
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Completely exaggerated. I was there man. This is NOT how it happened.
People, trust me when I say some people are blowing this way out of proportion to what actually happened. |
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| koncept |
| quote: | | Originally posted by KKEFKA Completely exaggerated. I was there man. This is NOT how it happened. |
Where were you when this occurred? Can you explain what you witnessed from your vantage point? |
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| koncept |
| quote: | | Originally posted by Kytracid They were probably after some 'ghetto dudes' anyway. :haha: |
Or THE Ghetto Dude. |
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| smuncky |
| quote: | Originally posted by KKEFKA
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good to know you're okay jay and thx for giving us some truthful info. |
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