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| beats and beeps |
yeah thats very true, what was in the brackets was not very tactful. I shouldnt have done it.
In all honesty, I did that because I was worried that people would think that I was a christian, asking the question about grandpa rape in a serious manner. |
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| inconspicuous |
| For what it's worth, I promise I won't take you any more seriously now :gsmile: |
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| eRRaTiK |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
richard dawkins: the god delusion. best book of the last decade. read it. it shows, in so many damning (lol) ways, just why religion is the tiest thing ever. |
Thanks for the recommendation. I will check it out.
Also going to check out The God Solution: A Reply to The God Delusion by James A. Beverley. Always good to have multiple perspectives :) |
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| inconspicuous |
| quote: | Originally posted by eRRaTiK
Always good to have multiple perspectives :) |
yep. |
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| Cipha Sounds |
Beats and Bleeps and Pkcraistan have many valid point. Please bare with me people. Even though I'm Roman Catholic I follow the ways of the original Catholics who came from Babylon. The Vatican church and the different positions like "FATHER", Cardinal, Bishop and even the Pope were not mean to be. This is not the way it was supposed to be. I've studied the old bible translated from the original testaments and not the modified versions like the King James Bible for example. The old testament teaches us to call no man on earth "FATHER" , like how modern day christian call their priests.
I don't want to get into full detail, but over 96% of the Christians(every sect) are not following their faith according to the original scriptures of the original Bible and the Vatican Church should not be forcing their beliefs to no man and have made up all these positions like Cardinal, Pope, etc. These are not the teachings of Christ and the Vatican church is more like a government body than anything else. That's why so many "ultra-orthodox" and do not accept the Pope because they know the truth.
The Christians nowadays are preety much Extremists and have changed the original concept of Christianity, let me let you guys in another secret, those "Priests" you see with the white collars, they weren't meant to be and after a few years they "rank up" to other positions such as "Bishops", these are all man made bull ranks and it was never meant to be like this . A teacher of the faith was never meant to have ranks , the Vatican has changed it to a Military concept. There are very few other people who follow the old Catholic ways of Babylon, some can be found in Iraq and are known as Assyrian. And those unbelievable stories you guys might've heard about in the "modern day bibles" were never in the original. |
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| Cipha Sounds |
| quote: | Originally posted by eRRaTiK
96% hey? |
I'm being dead serious. Have you ever seen the old world teachers of the Catholic faith who wear the brown robes and the three knots on the side and I'm not talking about Bishops. These are the followers of the original Babylonian Catholics (some Roman Catholics also follow this way). We completely disregard the Vatican, the pope, and all these so called "Catholic leaders and bodies"
They are false and not about the faith. Why is the "Pope" sitting in a solid gold chair. There is so much bull going on with the Christian religion and the made up positions that it's unbelievable. They're almost as ed up as the Islamic religion and their Mohammed and Allah which teaches to die for their "god" and their reward is virgins in "Heaven". It's so pathetic. My catholic sect is so small that there are only a handful of churches that teach our ways in the United States. |
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| inconspicuous |
...ok
| quote: | Originally posted by eRRaTiK
96% hey? |
I heard it was more like 95 |
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| eRRaTiK |
| quote: | Originally posted by Cipha Sounds
I'm being dead serious. Have you ever seen the old world teachers of the Catholic faith who wear the brown robes and the three knots on the side and I'm not talking about Bishops. These are the followers of the original Babylonian Catholics (some Roman Catholics also follow this way). We completely disregard the Vatican, the pope, and all these so called "Catholic leaders and bodies" |
This is interesting.
| quote: | | Why is the "Pope" sitting in a solid gold chair. There is so much bull going on with the Christian religion and the made up positions that it's unbelievable. |
I don't dispute that the Vatican is less about religion and more about power & politics.
| quote: | | They're almost as ed up as the Islamic religion and their Mohammed and Allah which teaches to die for their "god" and their reward is virgins in "Heaven". It's so pathetic. |
Let's clarify this statement and say that a few bad fruit does not represent the entire tree. |
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| Cipha Sounds |
I'm not sure about the percentage numbers so let's just say most. The point I'm trying to make is that the modern christian faiths including the Catholics and Orthodox who actually follow the ways of the Vatican church are being led the wrong path. The Vatican church has a dark history and their own soldiers and chain of comman who have sent these armies all over the world to force their man made beliefs.
The original teaching of the scriptures are that God is Love, it you want me to try to simplify it. It doesn't matter if you have a religion or atheist. If you go through life and help people out wether it's family or a complete stranger and not let the temptation of life like greed (money for example) control you. Spiritual people call it "karma" and it's built from the same teachings of the original scripture. You DO NOT have to have to have a religion to reach to what some refer to as "Heaven" or a higher "Spiritual plain" those are our teaching, it differs dramatically from modern day Christianity. |
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| Cipha Sounds |
| quote: | Originally posted by eRRaTiK
This is interesting.
I don't dispute that the Vatican is less about religion and more about power & politics.
Let's clarify this statement and say that a few bad fruit does not represent the entire tree. |
The Torah contains the old scriptures that were later translated into the original Biblical verses in Aramaic. The Koran was completely man made and their so call "prophet" Mohammed was a corupt human being. He was taught the original catholic ways from a Babylonian teacher and was supposed to spread the teachings. He instead went to the land what is now known as "Mecca" and raised an army. What kind of prophet raises an army and weilds a weapon. He also asked his followers to "pray" for him so he could make it to heaven to Allah's side. The Koran is basically a twisted up version of the Torah and Bible scriptures.
The Koran does not deny Christ existed , but they do not accept him as a teacher of the faith. Instead they accept some person who claimed war and killed so many christians who would not convert to the Islamic ways. And promised their followers virgins in heaven. |
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