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2012.06.08-2012.06.10 [LV] Insomniac presents// Electric Daisy Carnival (pg. 73)
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| jonmitz |
i dont even know where to begin
tragic and avoidable in so many ways |
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| djjoshuaallen |
wow.
based on this article, given that this occurred on sunday night, Im willing to bet that the lack of sleep over the course of the weekend probably played a larger role in her paranoia experiences then the ingestion of an "mdma pill"
im willing to bet alot of little noobs are not experienced with multiple day festivals and lack the ability to pace themeselves and take care of their body throughout the course of a long festival week.
Sleep deprevation can have much more of a strain on the brain and result in paranoia effects than an "mdma pill" |
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| Calabria |
| quote: | Originally posted by djjoshuaallen
wow.
based on this article, given that this occurred on sunday night, Im willing to bet that the lack of sleep over the course of the weekend probably played a larger role in her paranoia experiences then the ingestion of an "mdma pill"
im willing to bet alot of little noobs are not experienced with multiple day festivals and lack the ability to pace themeselves and take care of their body throughout the course of a long festival week.
Sleep deprevation can have much more of a strain on the brain and result in paranoia effects than an "mdma pill" |
being at edc i can assure you, that a lot of the people at this years edc were indeed first timers in a lot of areas. first time edc'ers, first time in vegas, and first time at a "rave". they had little experience with drugs and little to no experience in vegas, let alone with a 3 day music festival...let loose a kid with no self control on all these things. you can guess what happens to some of them. |
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| LAdazeNYnights |
| It would be interesting to read about the official toxicology report: that is, if there was anything resembling mdma in her system. What I can't understand is why, after having a bad experience with those pills at coachella (if i read the reddit post right), she would take the same exact ones again. |
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| rowdy |
| quote: | Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
security should have to run anyone turned in being too ed up past some sort of triage. You could sue this event with the right lawyer. What a ty event anyways, Americans just in blow all round.
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What the are you talking about.... Sue the event for a girl taking drugs and then leaving the event and then jumping out the damn window? Did Insomniac give out free pills at the entrance that I wasn't aware of? Or was their security doing borderline ing strip searches... My gf had her whole skirt pulled up had the ing **** put her hands physically inside her bra... and to find what? ing nothing....
If any suing should be done it should be for sexual assault by security..
People will take drugs no matter what... drug use goes hand in hand with music festivals. |
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| jonmitz |
the amount of ignorance and misconception of the general public regarding drug use makes me so furious.
Also this looney guy is a class A douchemaster |
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| 3tlk |
i would much rather have the kids experimenting in a semi-controlled environment at these massives. afterall...you don't find EMT at a crack house.
people will experiment regardless of the draconian laws pushed by the lobbyist. |
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| Looney4Clooney |
security have a mandate. Letting someone leave that is intoxicated and a danger to themselves and the public makes the security complicit or at lest negligent in the proceeding events. They should have called an ambulance, not a taxi. It costs them nothing. They are trained to notice these things and are held to different standards. if someone released at the behest of someone else and not under their own recognizance at such an event, i think the police should be asking what the the security are doing. There are paramedics on site. You don't let people that are not in control roam free. People do stupid at dance events. Security should know better. When people start dying, people will start shutting your stupid events down. They did it before, they will do it again. So although you think this doesn't affect more than just the person, or that security or the event has nothing to gain by ensuring this kind of doesn't happen, well ing trim your retard gain.
If you disagree or think i'm a douche, you are a ing idiot or too young to get it. |
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| Cool1g |
| quote: | Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
security have a mandate. Letting someone leave that is intoxicated and a danger to themselves and the public makes the security complicit or at lest negligent in the proceeding events. They should have called an ambulance, not a taxi. It costs them nothing. They are trained to notice these things and are held to different standards. if someone released at the behest of someone else and not under their own recognizance at such an event, i think the police should be asking what the the security are doing. There are paramedics on site. You don't let people that are not in control roam free. People do stupid at dance events. Security should know better. When people start dying, people will start shutting your stupid events down. They did it before, they will do it again. So although you think this doesn't affect more than just the person, or that security or the event has nothing to gain by ensuring this kind of doesn't happen, well ing trim your retard gain.
If you disagree or think i'm a douche, you are a ing idiot or too young to get it. |
in a general sense i agree that security shouldn't pay a blind eye to someone that's having problems.
But you are assuming here that she was in a state that made it clear something was off.... we don't know that.
If you read her friend's writeup on reddit, other than feeling paranoid she apparently felt okay... so i'd say there was no way to know what was going on in her head, she probably looked fine to security and this is just a very unfortunate situation. |
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| Looney4Clooney |
so given what happened , you don't think her friends who don't care enough to look after her will not pain a picture that makes them look not so bad ?
You don't just leave with your friends help if you are a little sick. Not when you wait hours to get in, and pay the money you pay. She was obviously past not feeling well. When security has a group giving them a person who needs to be escorted out , you ask what the is going on. And you would ask the actual person not the group. And i think it wouldn't be too hard to pick up that this person is not ok. You call the ambulance. i'm sure there are ambulances there already.
Now you have a dead person. And one dead person is enough reason for someone to politicize it which they have done in the past. She is female, her first time. This is golden nugget for any politician that wants to crusade some cause to gain attention. |
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| Cool1g |
| quote: | Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
so given what happened , you don't think her friends who don't care enough to look after her will not pain a picture that makes them look not so bad ?
You don't just leave with your friends help if you are a little sick. Not when you wait hours to get in, and pay the money you pay. She was obviously past not feeling well. When security has a group giving them a person who needs to be escorted out , you ask what the is going on. And you would ask the actual person not the group. And i think it wouldn't be too hard to pick up that this person is not ok. You call the ambulance. i'm sure there are ambulances there already.
Now you have a dead person. And one dead person is enough reason for someone to politicize it which they have done in the past. She is female, her first time. This is golden nugget for any politician that wants to crusade some cause to gain attention. |
again, you are making assumptions not in evidence. The only first-hand report of what happened is on reddit and i think you have to agree that from description things don't seem too bad. Of course coming from one of the friends that was with the girl, its conceivable that the girl was in a bad state and security should have known and done something. right now we just don't know the answer to that question.
Since we have an adult here that chose to use drugs all weekend and after having a similar freak-out at Coachella, still chose to party excessively. its a very different situation from the girl at EDC in LA (minor vs. adult, etc.). Having said that, with 2 deaths (the guy hit by the car died too over the weekend), i'm sure there will be some negative publicity.... however from what i can tell so far these events will not generate the amount of negative pub as in 2010. |
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| Looney4Clooney |
| a description from someone that would have a very compelling reason to not say what really happened. So i think the friends that did not care enough to make sure their friend was safe aren't really a reliable source for anything. Why would you share this information other than trying to cover your ass. It is very circumspect. You volunteer that information for a reason. And the Coachella bit, rather convenient how that shifts the blame off them. Either way, the security is what i'm talking about. That was a major up. |
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