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| evil_bastard |
I would be extremely happy if we got Hitzfeld, he is in a different league to the other managers we are being linked with. His record is brilliant and he is a truly world renowned coach. He would bring quality coaching staff with him as well. When you look at the lack of development in most of our youngsters and the fact we seem to get more niggling hamstring injuries than other Premiership sides then our coaching setup must be pretty poor. Hitzfeld is very well respected in Germany having won the Champions League with Borussia Dortmund and five titles in six years plus the Champions League with Bayern Munich, he's bound to have excellent contacts and could find the pick of the German youngsters like Wenger does in France. A world renowned coach makes it easier to attract big name players as well.
Hitzfeld hasn't been officially linked, NUFC.com claim that he has flown into Newcastle today but they also state that this is just a rumour which has some substance but could be wrong.
Sadly it does look like Shepherd wants a British manager, but I really hope the Hitzfeld rumours are true as he is a cut above the other candidates. |
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| czechstar00 |
| For sure quality coach staff is something that we lack. Does anyone know if John Carver's was Bobby's choice? Come to think of it i dont think Bobby introduced any new staff, they were all there when he arrived in 99. |
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| Turner |
I wouldnt really be bothered if we had a massive change around in players.
I wouldnt be bothered if we got rid of:
Jenas
Dyer
Bramble
Hughes
A few others aswell, maybe Viana could make an impact with a new manager if hes given the chance as well all know he has the potential.
One thing which needs to be done is for management to start to threaten to players, IMO the majority of Newcastle players couldnt give a . They come for the money and thats it. There needs to be some big changes, alot of the players just think its a kick about and they dont give 100%.
One bad thing though with getting a foreign manager, which has been mentioned, they decide to buy from abroad and if Newcastle were to get the german manager the chances are he would probalby over a period of time buy 4-5 german players which i wouldnt really be keen on. |
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| Turner |
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No talks with Venables - Shepherd
Newcastle chairman Freddy Shepherd has denied having talks with Terry Venables over the vacant manager's position at St James' Park.
There was a growing belief on Thursday that Venables, the man who helped Middlesbrough out of a hole but could not halt Leeds' tailspin, is at the top of the Magpies' wanted list.
It was thought that he - like Sir Bobby Robson, a former Barcelona and England manager - had discussed the possibility of taking over on a caretaker basis.
Bookmakers Ladbrokes temporarily suspended betting on Thursday afternoon after the 61-year-old's odds, which started at 50-1 earlier this week, were slashed from 11-2 to 4-5.
However, Shepherd told The Guardian: "Terry Venables has not been here. I have not spoken to Terry Venables. I can't remember the last time I saw him."
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It wouldnt suprise me if Shepherd was lieing one once again. |
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| evil_bastard |
| quote: | Originally posted by Turner
One bad thing though with getting a foreign manager, which has been mentioned, they decide to buy from abroad and if Newcastle were to get the german manager the chances are he would probalby over a period of time buy 4-5 german players which i wouldnt really be keen on. |
As long as they are good players I wouldn't mind. I don't think Arsenal fans are complaining about the French players Wenger has bought. Hitzfeld's contacts and reputation in Germany would mean we would have a good chance of landing young German stars at good prices the way Wenger does.
Hitzfeld is one of the most successful European coaches of the last decade. Real Madrid, Man Utd, Barcelona, AC Milan and Germany all tried to get him when he was at Bayern Munich and he turned them down. He said recently he would move to the Premiership over Spain or Italy because he speaks good English, and as Liverpool and Chelsea have just got new managers and Arsenal and Man Utd are happy with theirs, he may just be considering us. Apparently the German press linked Hitzfeld with the Newcastle job this morning, although I'm still sceptical. |
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| Turner |
| According to teletext, Newcastle are looking for a premiership Manager. |
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| evil_bastard |
Lies from Shepherd this year:
January: "Woodgate is not for sale at any price. They can have him over my dead body."
August: Woodgate goes to Real Madrid.
June: "You don't sack Bobby Robson"
August: Bobby Robson is sacked.
August: "The fans will be pleasantly surprised with the Woodgate transfer, we didn't go into this without a long term plan. All will be revealed soon".
September: Not a penny of the Woodgate money spent, transfer window slams shut.
September: "I have not spoken with Venables, I can't even remember the last time I saw him".
September: The next day Venables says he had a good chat with Shepherd and they got on well.
What the is Shepherd doing to our club? All we want is the truth. I see we are considering spending half of the Woodgate money getting Steve Bruce as manager, he has never finished above 11th in the Premier League! Freddy Shepherd has this obsession with getting a geordie manager, but Bruce is a cock plus he's a Man Utd apologist.
There is only one way Shepherd can redeem himself and it is by providing a quality replacement for Robson, someone like Hitzfeld. |
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| evil_bastard |
Finally a bit of good news:
FIFA have ruled in our favour in the legal battle with French side Le Havre. Charles N'Zogbia is now free to start playing for us. He is an 18 year old left-back/left-mid and SkySports say he is rated one of the brightest young prospects in France. He comes from the same club as Le Tallec and Pongolle. |
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| Turner |
| quote: | Originally posted by evil_bastard
Finally a bit of good news:
FIFA have ruled in our favour in the legal battle with French side Le Havre. Charles N'Zogbia is now free to start playing for us. He is an 18 year old left-back/left-mid and SkySports say he is rated one of the brightest young prospects in France. He comes from the same club as Le Tallec and Pongolle. |
Well, its some good news i suppose. :)
Just need a manager and several new players now. :p |
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| evil_bastard |
I can't believe it, it's Graeme Souness!
This is the last straw, I am absolutely livid about this. Our club is being run by a loose cannon; he has sold our best player, completely neglected our defence and not spent the money, undermined the manager in front of the players, sacked the manager 4 games into the season, replaced him with a much worse manager and lied constantly to the fans. Is he trying to ruin our club or is he just a complete retard? There will be a massive backlash in Newcastle over this with a lot of people calling for Shepherd's head. Just what the is he playing at? |
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| TJM |
Ha just seen the Souness thing on Sky. Never saw that one coming!
I would imagine hes been brought in from a discipline point of view as much as anything, lets be honest Souness can be a strict nasty piece of work if anyones playing up and there's a few at Newcastle (Dyer, Bramble, Bellamy et al) who like a night out and need slapping into shape every now and then.
On the playing side its hard to see which way it'l go. He won everything in Scotland at Rangers (not difficult tho), dismantled a great Liverpool side, mediocre achievments in Europe and then after taking them up he's struggled to do much with a promising Blackburn side. |
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| evil_bastard |
Sounness's record is bleak reading to say the least. He has the tactical nous of Kevin Keegan with the man management of Glenn Hoddle. The worst possible appointment Shepherd could have made. The biggest insult is that we have to pay compensation for him as well.
He's not a disciplinarian he's just a grumpy bastard with a history of falling out with players and pissing off dressing rooms. He has vendettas against certain players and drops them because of his childish attitude. I wonder if he'll bring George Weah's cousin with him?
I've just been reading a Blackburn forum and their fans aren't that bothered he's leaving, they think he was 2 or 3 games away from the sack anyway.
Freddy Shepherd is taking this club on a downward spiral, I don't know what his agenda is but it seems to be totaly self-motivated. Sack him now. |
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